Mileage as bad as a 4.0?
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I believe you ran a V6. No offense, but GT and GXP would take you and are hella fast. You have to remember these things have wicked amounts of torque, but you definitely have the weight advantage. They are great at the track and are awesome cruising. I know many that are running low 11s and mid 12s on motor only. Stock they run 13.0 - 13.3 1/4 mile and 0-60 ~ 5.0 seconds.Not bad for a 4000 pound grocery getter.
Last edited by GM/Ford owner; 10-29-2010 at 12:58 PM.
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I believe you ran a V6. No offense, but GT and GXP would take you and are hella fast. You have to remember these things have wicked amounts of torque, but you definitely have the weight advantage. They are great at the track and are awesome cruising. I know many that are running low 11s and mid 12s on motor only. Stock they run 13.0 - 13.3 1/4 mile and 0-60 ~ 5.0 seconds.Not bad for a 4000 pound grocery getter.
My mazda ain't stock Carrillo rods wisco pistons and a big turbo my sig says 274 hp that was with the little gt2554 now with the 2861 I am on the other side of 350 and 2200lbs crunch the numbers my hp to weight is almost equal to a zo6. Now that is one fast ride.
My mazda isn't set up for quarter mile but it still runs mid 11's with a 1.89 60 foot time and 128 mph at the trap.
Don't take me wrong the G8 is a nice car but it is no speed daemon and don't handle worth a sh@t.
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I believe you ran a V6. No offense, but GT and GXP would take you and are hella fast. You have to remember these things have wicked amounts of torque, but you definitely have the weight advantage. They are great at the track and are awesome cruising. I know many that are running low 11s and mid 12s on motor only. Stock they run 13.0 - 13.3 1/4 mile and 0-60 ~ 5.0 seconds.Not bad for a 4000 pound grocery getter.
New setup with the bigger turbo mazdaspeed 6 speed and 3.60 gears my weight to hp ratio is 6 1/4 lbs per hp, it does all right.
It surprises a lot of people I especially like to mess with the C6 vettes and new dodge challengers even the new Rousch mustangs and V8 camero's disappear in my rearview. Need bigger injectors and a better intercooler running 550cc's now I have run out of headroom with the standalone looking into getting some 750cc with a little re-programing I should see the other side of 400 rwhp.
But I think it will give up it's street-ability with that big of an injector on a 1.9 liter motor.
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Are you kidding? the 3.0 has PLENTY of power. People keep comparing the 3.0 to the 4cyl on paper - not knowing when you drive it - it's a totally diffrent experience. the 3.0 actually drives like a truck, and the torque feels excellent. Very exceptional. I came from owning high horsepower mustangs and I'm a good judge of torque. For what the ranger is - the 3.0 does a great job. and it's pretty quick imo.
If you want my opinion - i say stay away from the 4 banger ranger. A 4 cyl truck is not a real truck. the 3.0 sounds "trucky" and usually sits higher and just overall feels more quality than the POS 4 cyl (my opinion)
Do i like the 4.0? sure. But in all honesty - I prefer my 3.0. The Vulcan can go 300,000 miles on straight **** in the crank case.
Believe me - 3.0 over the 4cylinder. only 10-15 more horses - yes - but I tell you... Two cylinders more - makes for a much muhc more quality ride. just the way the 3.0 idles and gets off the line (with good gearing especially) is excellent. due to design - you can't get a small displacement 4 cyl to idle as smooth as the vulcan and react the same way. we're not only talking a few more horses - we're talking dynamics!
As long as your happy with whatever decision you make - thats what counts!
If you want my opinion - i say stay away from the 4 banger ranger. A 4 cyl truck is not a real truck. the 3.0 sounds "trucky" and usually sits higher and just overall feels more quality than the POS 4 cyl (my opinion)
Do i like the 4.0? sure. But in all honesty - I prefer my 3.0. The Vulcan can go 300,000 miles on straight **** in the crank case.
Believe me - 3.0 over the 4cylinder. only 10-15 more horses - yes - but I tell you... Two cylinders more - makes for a much muhc more quality ride. just the way the 3.0 idles and gets off the line (with good gearing especially) is excellent. due to design - you can't get a small displacement 4 cyl to idle as smooth as the vulcan and react the same way. we're not only talking a few more horses - we're talking dynamics!
As long as your happy with whatever decision you make - thats what counts!
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The main issue here is the MPG you get out of a 3.0 vs the MPG you get out of a 4.0 SOHC.
The 4.0 SOHC has 57 more HP than the 3.0 OHV and it doesn't use much more fuel than the 3.0. That's why Ford quit making them in 2008.
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the problem is you really have to work the 3.0...especially if you lifted it and put bigger tires on like my buddy did...the 4.0 really doesnt have to work all that hard to move the ranger...hell i can let my clutch out w/o any skinny pedal and it moves...try that with a 3.0 and youll stall
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the problem is you really have to work the 3.0...especially if you lifted it and put bigger tires on like my buddy did...the 4.0 really doesnt have to work all that hard to move the ranger...hell i can let my clutch out w/o any skinny pedal and it moves...try that with a 3.0 and youll stall
If I floor my truck and get the RPMs up to 6000 to 7000 I can actually pass a Geo-Metro, but I don't feel like hearing my engine tell me that it's about ready to blow up.
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I have a 08 4.0 4x4 auto and my friend has a 02 with the 3.0 4x4 and auto. we both have 4.10's
now I know it's kind of an unfair comparason because of the huge age difference, but we get exactly the same fuel mileage and we have roughly the same km's ( i have 70k he has 85k)
about 17 in the city and 20 on the highway.
it just seems his is working harder to get to speed.
IMO I think if you tow, or have plans to lift it with bigger tires, I would go with a 4.0 for torques sake if anything, but if all you do is drive to work with it and haul the occasional load a 3.0 would be ok.
Around here you can get a used 3.0 for a lot cheaper than a 4.0.
now I know it's kind of an unfair comparason because of the huge age difference, but we get exactly the same fuel mileage and we have roughly the same km's ( i have 70k he has 85k)
about 17 in the city and 20 on the highway.
it just seems his is working harder to get to speed.
IMO I think if you tow, or have plans to lift it with bigger tires, I would go with a 4.0 for torques sake if anything, but if all you do is drive to work with it and haul the occasional load a 3.0 would be ok.
Around here you can get a used 3.0 for a lot cheaper than a 4.0.
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imo, I think the 3.0 is a useless motor. As already stated, it gets about the same mileage with less hp as the 4.0. And the hp ratings are just a hair over the 4cylinder.
op: 4.0 sohc, manual, 4.10's and 31's I average 20mpg. I drive up and down 29 every day that I drive it
op: 4.0 sohc, manual, 4.10's and 31's I average 20mpg. I drive up and down 29 every day that I drive it
I don't think anyone gets a ranger for "the engine"
It's just a nice little beater car to have. i bought my 04 for 4,100 bucks..and its the best looking ranger i've seen in town. Spending any money on it - imo is awaste. buy a stereo, level it out for 50 bucks and call it a day. these cars were made to rag on - and they take the ragging pretty damn good.
I would never put my truck through the abuse i put my ranger in. but i know that my 3.0 is easy to work on and i dont feel bad using it for work...
My 2010 tundras a diffrent story. She only takes my mustang to the track and looks cute for me on the weekends :)
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HAHAHA i swear by my little 3.0L.
I have had THREE Rangers all with the 3.0L and i had ONE ford Explorer with the 4.0L sohc.
I Still prefer the 3.0L . Its a stronger built motor, its SIMPLE, Its decent on fuel, An it just always works.
The 4.0L i had had all kinds of problems (head gasket, timing chain guids, and lastly oil flow problem to the heads resulting it a big bang) All in the span of 120,000kms
My first 3.0L was in a reg cab 2wd. Truck went 112,000kms before i sold it NEVER had a issue. This thing averaged 22mpg.
My second was in a ex cab 4x4. This thing had 285,000kms on the clock and only problem it had was a Idle air control motor. This thing was ABUSED too even managed towing 5000lbs of motorcycles and tools when i moved. Averaged only 17mpg though as it was kinda heavy.
And my current truck is a 2wd ex cab with the 4:10s. Peppier than the other two but milage is not quite as good as the first one due to the 4:10s at a average of 19mpg. Good little truck and one i plan to keep for a long haul. Currently she only has 36,000kms on the clock but not a hint of worry and i dont expect any for MANY miles to come.
Oh and when i wana go fast i dont go for a vehical with 4 wheels. Plane and simple is cheaper and more fun to get your go fast kicks on 2 wheels. Hell my daily rider will get 12s all day long on the 1/4 and its built for touring LOL. The bike im building right now im hoping to get into the 11's.
I have had THREE Rangers all with the 3.0L and i had ONE ford Explorer with the 4.0L sohc.
I Still prefer the 3.0L . Its a stronger built motor, its SIMPLE, Its decent on fuel, An it just always works.
The 4.0L i had had all kinds of problems (head gasket, timing chain guids, and lastly oil flow problem to the heads resulting it a big bang) All in the span of 120,000kms
My first 3.0L was in a reg cab 2wd. Truck went 112,000kms before i sold it NEVER had a issue. This thing averaged 22mpg.
My second was in a ex cab 4x4. This thing had 285,000kms on the clock and only problem it had was a Idle air control motor. This thing was ABUSED too even managed towing 5000lbs of motorcycles and tools when i moved. Averaged only 17mpg though as it was kinda heavy.
And my current truck is a 2wd ex cab with the 4:10s. Peppier than the other two but milage is not quite as good as the first one due to the 4:10s at a average of 19mpg. Good little truck and one i plan to keep for a long haul. Currently she only has 36,000kms on the clock but not a hint of worry and i dont expect any for MANY miles to come.
Oh and when i wana go fast i dont go for a vehical with 4 wheels. Plane and simple is cheaper and more fun to get your go fast kicks on 2 wheels. Hell my daily rider will get 12s all day long on the 1/4 and its built for touring LOL. The bike im building right now im hoping to get into the 11's.
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