Check Engine light, multiple codes...argh
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Check Engine light, multiple codes...argh
Guys,
Really need some help with my '94 4.0 Ranger. I've had it for a little over two years now with zero problems and now I've got one I can't seem to figure out.
First off, as back-story, I had my clutch replaced last month by a local shop. When I picked her up the check light came on, so I took the truck back and had them scan it. They said I needed a new O2 sensor and it'd be $120. I knew I could do this cheaper myself and I did.
I replaced BOTH O2 sensors for less than they wanted for one (part only).
Anyway, after replacing them (and clearing the code) the check engine light came back on. The codes I have are:
172
173
176
177
Lean and Rich on both sides. How? What else should I be looking at? I removed and cleaned the MAF and also searched for a vacuum leak (which I didn't find).
Help!
-Matt
Really need some help with my '94 4.0 Ranger. I've had it for a little over two years now with zero problems and now I've got one I can't seem to figure out.
First off, as back-story, I had my clutch replaced last month by a local shop. When I picked her up the check light came on, so I took the truck back and had them scan it. They said I needed a new O2 sensor and it'd be $120. I knew I could do this cheaper myself and I did.
I replaced BOTH O2 sensors for less than they wanted for one (part only).
Anyway, after replacing them (and clearing the code) the check engine light came back on. The codes I have are:
172
173
176
177
Lean and Rich on both sides. How? What else should I be looking at? I removed and cleaned the MAF and also searched for a vacuum leak (which I didn't find).
Help!
-Matt
#3
Very close. Dearborn.
Other symptoms are that it doesn't feel like I have full power. I'd guess, from the seat of the pants, 70-80%. Also, when I'm in 4th or 5th gear and cruising for a few minutes it'll catch, or start to speed up, ie give me the power back for a bit. It's a weird situation that I really need to track down.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Other symptoms are that it doesn't feel like I have full power. I'd guess, from the seat of the pants, 70-80%. Also, when I'm in 4th or 5th gear and cruising for a few minutes it'll catch, or start to speed up, ie give me the power back for a bit. It's a weird situation that I really need to track down.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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#9
I'd have a used oil analysis done. Inexpensive and easy to do. It can tell you some important things.
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#11
Originally Posted by OTRtech
Crawl underneath and trace the wires from the O2 sensors back up into the engine bay.Sounds like they may have pinched the wires between the block and bellhousing.
Last edited by Rockledge; 08-14-2007 at 09:18 AM.
#14
Thanks for the help, everyone. I really do appreciate it.
I'll probably replace the PCV, just because it's cheap and I'm not sure when (or if) it's ever been done...but I just don't buy that this isn't related to the clutch work I had done. The truck was running perfectly when it went in and the minute I drove it away, this began. The response I got from the shop was, "Well, it's the O2 sensor because it's 14 years old, blah, blah." Well, after replacing both of them the issue is still here. Thus, my reluctance to take it back for troubleshooting/repair.
04 EDGE, if you have any spare time in the next week or two, let me know as I wouldn't mind an extra set of eyes on it.
I'll probably replace the PCV, just because it's cheap and I'm not sure when (or if) it's ever been done...but I just don't buy that this isn't related to the clutch work I had done. The truck was running perfectly when it went in and the minute I drove it away, this began. The response I got from the shop was, "Well, it's the O2 sensor because it's 14 years old, blah, blah." Well, after replacing both of them the issue is still here. Thus, my reluctance to take it back for troubleshooting/repair.
04 EDGE, if you have any spare time in the next week or two, let me know as I wouldn't mind an extra set of eyes on it.
#15
the wrong O2 in the wrong bank can cause this.. soi make sure the o2s are plugged into the rigth connector .. also the pinched wire is a good idea although i would think yoiu would get an 02 code.an exhaust leak can also cause miss information from the 02 sensors due to the extra air that can get in due to a leak..
but what i sugest is not just replacing everything, believe it or not 90% of problems can actually be diagnosed and although may take more time to start it will save you agrevatipon and money in the long run..
with that said you said its a 94, i hope it is OBDII if it is get your self a code/data reader. it can help you out imensly now and in the future with any OBDII car you have or will have, so its a good investment. once you get that check the fuel trim and votages from the 02 sensors, this way you can physically find out if its lean or ritch. also one last note check between the rear of the enigne and the fire wall, carlessly droping the engine down when doing a transmission can cause the back of the engine to hit the fire wall and break random stuff back there!
good luck, JOSH
but what i sugest is not just replacing everything, believe it or not 90% of problems can actually be diagnosed and although may take more time to start it will save you agrevatipon and money in the long run..
with that said you said its a 94, i hope it is OBDII if it is get your self a code/data reader. it can help you out imensly now and in the future with any OBDII car you have or will have, so its a good investment. once you get that check the fuel trim and votages from the 02 sensors, this way you can physically find out if its lean or ritch. also one last note check between the rear of the enigne and the fire wall, carlessly droping the engine down when doing a transmission can cause the back of the engine to hit the fire wall and break random stuff back there!
good luck, JOSH
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#17
Originally Posted by TippsTheFoo
The truck was running perfectly when it went in and the minute I drove it away, this began. The response I got from the shop was, "Well, it's the O2 sensor because it's 14 years old, blah, blah." Well, after replacing both of them the issue is still here. Thus, my reluctance to take it back for troubleshooting/repair.
the long part that the wires come out of broke away from the part that bolts in and you could move it around.
i would check out the elbow at the pcv, or the entire hose, im not sure how your truck is setup.
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