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There's definately rear sways on rangers.
 
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Originally Posted by Redneck Ranger
I tried using 12 points on it. Didn't work, just started slipping off. Thanks for the info Shane. One other thing, what's the sensor for in the differential?
You were using them wrong.

No problem.

ABS speed sensor. Depending on what year Explorer (or Ranger for that fact), it's also the gauge speed sensor. You should carry over your truck's existing sensor anyway because they changed over the years.


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Okay, awesome. I'll probably have about 500 more questions throughout the swap lol And yeah, I used a 12 mm
I suggest getting off your darn phone and actually searching the topic on a computer.


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Brad, did you use the Expo setup for the brakes? I see you have the soft line going up towards the bed. And I'm just gonna reuse my spring perches and shock mounts because I don't have $140 to fork out for the perches and mounts from ruff stuff.
You WILL need u-bolts and reusing perches, while usable, is sketch. You gotta be damn good with a grinder to be able to reuse them. You don't have to go RuffStuff. There's plenty of other options out there for your perches. Just gotta find 'em!

FYI: you'll want to shoot for 3.25(tube dia) and 2.5(leaf width).

http://www.currieenterprises.com/ces...E.aspx?id=2637

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/builder...ches-pair.html


Reusing shock mounts is no biggie. You can actually clock them on the housing to make stock length shocks work on a lifted application.

Spring plate....just drill out the holes and you should be fine with your new ubolts for the larger housing dia.



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i dont think rangers have a rear sway bar
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i know the expos have a rear sway bar but i dont recall ever seeing a sway bar on the rear end of my ranger
LEARN MORE.

Rear sway bars came factory on some Rangers....even up to current day (errrr.... lol). They're like 5/8" diameter...so they're puny. A popular mod for lowered guys and even lifted guys looking for more stability is swapping on BroncoII rear sway bars. If memory serves me correctly, they're offered 3/4" and 7/8" diameters?
 
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Originally Posted by Redneck Ranger
Yeah, I used a sawzall to cut through the old ones lol So I'll need em. Probably if I'm off work tomorrow I'll take it up my buddy's and cut the old **** off. Can I just run without the rear swaybar? Or do I need to remount my current one?


I removed my swaybars LONG ago. If my memory serves me correctly the sway bar mount was in the way so I just ground the welds down and pounded them off.
 
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Thanks for the links Shane. Would the U bolts come with the plate to mount to? Because I didn't grab them at the junk yard.
 
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You can use them but you'll have to modify them (the lower shock mount is incop. into them) I just grabbed a set of u-bolt plates off of a 80-96 2wd F150 (2.5" wide springs with 3.25 axle tube) or just get them from above mentioned suppliers for around $40.00.
 
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I'll get new ones...I don't have the ones from the Explorer. Left em there. They were all rusted out anyways.
 
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Got some work done today! Photobucket's being retarded, so I don't have pics to post at the moment.... Ground down and hammered off all of the old mounts and smoothed it out as best I could. I did go into the axle tube about a 16th of an inch, so I was thinking about having my buddy weld some metal into the dips so it's not a weak spot...although I did hear that welding it will actually make it weaker? That true? Anyways...Got that done, pulled the diff cover and checked the gears out. They're fine. Slight bit of pinion slop, but nothing to sneeze over.

Now another question... Is it possible for me to pull the dust covers off of the brake setup? I have one from a 96, and it looks like the e-brake uses it...
 
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dude if it has pinion slop now its only gonna get worse...and before you know it your gonna need another rear
 
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Pictures, finally.






DJ, like I said. It's hardly any at all. Once it's all installed, I'm gonna take it to a garage and have them look it over and put the ebrake cables on. So I'll ask them about it.
 
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Could these be used for shock mounts? They say they fit any axle.

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/rustys-...rsal-pair.html
 
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Alrighty, ordered my shock mounts and leaf perches. Should be here by the weekend hopefully
 
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Cool! Should be plenty strong after you get it all done.
 
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I'm hoping. I wanna eventually throw a locker into it so it better be lol
 
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Wait I thought you said it was a limited slip. Is it?
 
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Originally Posted by GreaseMonkey01
Wait I thought you said it was a limited slip. Is it?
L/s and locker are different.
 
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Okay. I just looked at the picture and it didn't look like either one.
 
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It's an LSD. Look at the first picture in the thread, axle code D2.

Just got an email at 4:30 that my shock mounts have shipped out.
 
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Originally Posted by GreaseMonkey01
Okay. I just looked at the picture and it didn't look like either one.
look at the picture again. see all those smaller gears 'n things in there?
 
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look at the picture again. see all those smaller gears 'n things in there?
I'm interested to see where this is going. Continue, please. I guess those are for the LS?
 
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yeah, I actually learned a good visual with legos haha. I dunno how to really explain it. but I think like those 3 smalle gears are in side another sort of gear housing thing, basically so they can rotate and different speeds.

See this diagram? with an open diff, you don't need all those gears since one axle spins independently without getting any power from the driveshaft. of course, this is from me playing with legos and making assumptions, so if I'm totally wrong feel free to blast me. That's my understanding of it though.

EDIT: I think I'm misleading you.... sorry. maybe these will help.



 
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Yeah, mine looks more like the first diagram there.
 
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If you're planning on getting a locker, why did you buy an axle with a L/S? They dont make a locker for the limited slip case from what I've heard...
 
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Eventually I'm gonna. Not this year, probably next if I have enough money for it...I'm gonna regear too because I'll be running 35s at some point too.
 
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Okay, cool. Thanks for the diagrams. I was confused by the open diff cage on his axle. I thought that LSD's generally had a closed cage....
 
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Originally Posted by Redneck Ranger
Eventually I'm gonna. Not this year, probably next if I have enough money for it...I'm gonna regear too because I'll be running 35s at some point too.


You dont seem to understand. There is no locker AVAILABLE for the case you have in that axle. That means you will now be purchasing a new open case AND the locker now instead of just a locker. Or you could go all out and spend the $850-1000 on a full locker.
 


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