4x2-4x4
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4x2-4x4
Alright, I have an 02 edge 4x2.
I'm bored with the truck, so I figure a 4wd conversion may be in order. I'm pretty damn handy with cars, so that's no problem.
Just some quick questions. I'm keeping the IFS. Not interested in doing SAS.
1. T-Case. Mounting points? Weld up new ones, or do the trucks come with them? I want a manual T-Case, but sourcing a manual tcase from a newer body style ranger is gonna be a toughie. Will a ranger with TTB's tcase work?
2. I heard about problems with auto's and shift points when converting to 4wd. Even though the sensor is on the trans, not the diff's. True, not true? Fix?
3. Drive shafts. I remember reading about explorer driveshafts. I have a single cab btw. Source a single cab 4x4 driveshaft? All models the same, or will IFS come into play?
4. ECU. PCM. Keep 4x2, or get 4x4?
Anything else I would need besides cv's, knuckles, front diff, tcase, tcase motor/harness (should I get an electronic for a great deal)
Thanks dudes.
P4C:
I'm bored with the truck, so I figure a 4wd conversion may be in order. I'm pretty damn handy with cars, so that's no problem.
Just some quick questions. I'm keeping the IFS. Not interested in doing SAS.
1. T-Case. Mounting points? Weld up new ones, or do the trucks come with them? I want a manual T-Case, but sourcing a manual tcase from a newer body style ranger is gonna be a toughie. Will a ranger with TTB's tcase work?
2. I heard about problems with auto's and shift points when converting to 4wd. Even though the sensor is on the trans, not the diff's. True, not true? Fix?
3. Drive shafts. I remember reading about explorer driveshafts. I have a single cab btw. Source a single cab 4x4 driveshaft? All models the same, or will IFS come into play?
4. ECU. PCM. Keep 4x2, or get 4x4?
Anything else I would need besides cv's, knuckles, front diff, tcase, tcase motor/harness (should I get an electronic for a great deal)
Thanks dudes.
P4C:
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1. The T case doesn't have its own mount if you are thinking like a tranny mount. If you keep your tranny you will need to switch the tailshaft housing and the output shaft. The 2wd and 4wd tranny crossmembers are different.
2. There should be no difference in shift points.
3. Rear shaft may be different.
4. You would have to get the 4wd computer to make the stock case work. I'd say just get a case from Stak.
The only problem I see is that the 2wd trucks lack one of the mounts for the front diff. You would have to do something with that.
I'm sure someone will chime in with more info. Most importantly do some searching. I would personally buy a 4wd truck if I want 4wd. Oh I did.
2. There should be no difference in shift points.
3. Rear shaft may be different.
4. You would have to get the 4wd computer to make the stock case work. I'd say just get a case from Stak.
The only problem I see is that the 2wd trucks lack one of the mounts for the front diff. You would have to do something with that.
I'm sure someone will chime in with more info. Most importantly do some searching. I would personally buy a 4wd truck if I want 4wd. Oh I did.
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Alright, I have an 02 edge 4x2.
I'm bored with the truck, so I figure a 4wd conversion may be in order. I'm pretty damn handy with cars, so that's no problem.
Just some quick questions. I'm keeping the IFS. Not interested in doing SAS.
1. T-Case. Mounting points? Weld up new ones, or do the trucks come with them? I want a manual T-Case, but sourcing a manual tcase from a newer body style ranger is gonna be a toughie. Will a ranger with TTB's tcase work?
2. I heard about problems with auto's and shift points when converting to 4wd. Even though the sensor is on the trans, not the diff's. True, not true? Fix?
3. Drive shafts. I remember reading about explorer driveshafts. I have a single cab btw. Source a single cab 4x4 driveshaft? All models the same, or will IFS come into play?
4. ECU. PCM. Keep 4x2, or get 4x4?
Anything else I would need besides cv's, knuckles, front diff, tcase, tcase motor/harness (should I get an electronic for a great deal)
Thanks dudes.
I'm bored with the truck, so I figure a 4wd conversion may be in order. I'm pretty damn handy with cars, so that's no problem.
Just some quick questions. I'm keeping the IFS. Not interested in doing SAS.
1. T-Case. Mounting points? Weld up new ones, or do the trucks come with them? I want a manual T-Case, but sourcing a manual tcase from a newer body style ranger is gonna be a toughie. Will a ranger with TTB's tcase work?
2. I heard about problems with auto's and shift points when converting to 4wd. Even though the sensor is on the trans, not the diff's. True, not true? Fix?
3. Drive shafts. I remember reading about explorer driveshafts. I have a single cab btw. Source a single cab 4x4 driveshaft? All models the same, or will IFS come into play?
4. ECU. PCM. Keep 4x2, or get 4x4?
Anything else I would need besides cv's, knuckles, front diff, tcase, tcase motor/harness (should I get an electronic for a great deal)
Thanks dudes.
1. Everything is bolt on for this swap except the support bracket for the differential. If you have any sort of fab skill it will be no problem at all to make it.
2. Not true.
3. IFS will come into play. TTB shafts will be too long. Also it will depend on what kind of flange the t-case has as to what year driveshaft you'll need for the front. Rear driveshaft will be easy. E-bay or junkyard for a regular cab 4x4 Ranger. 98-up.
4. Keep 4x2. No need to swap the computer.
The electronic t-case is much harder to make work with a truck not originally wired for it. Stick with a manual case, its easier and more reliable.
Don't forget you'll have to either replace the tranny with a 4x4 one or rebuild the current one with a 4x4 output shaft and extension housing.
You'll also need the wheel bearings with ABS sensors from a 4x4 2001-up Ranger or 4x4 95-up Explorer. Assuming you'll want the live axle setup that is.
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Thanks guys!
Yeah, I know all about the transmission. Still up in the air about getting a new trans/replacing the shaft.
Will a 4.0 trans bolt up to a 3.0?
Yeah, I'm going junkyard searching for a manual Tcase. Any ones I should be looking for? Any years/models to avoid?
Will any explorer tcase bolt up? How about bronco?
Yeah, I know all about the transmission. Still up in the air about getting a new trans/replacing the shaft.
Will a 4.0 trans bolt up to a 3.0?
Yeah, I'm going junkyard searching for a manual Tcase. Any ones I should be looking for? Any years/models to avoid?
Will any explorer tcase bolt up? How about bronco?
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I just sold my other car, so the ranger is gonna have to get done in 2 days.
I'm gonna just buy stuff one piece at a time till I have everything I need, then fab up the diff mount, then do a quick test fit on the questionable parts, then the next week I'm gonna bolt it all up. So stay tuned as I slowly (but surely) do this build.
I'm gonna just buy stuff one piece at a time till I have everything I need, then fab up the diff mount, then do a quick test fit on the questionable parts, then the next week I'm gonna bolt it all up. So stay tuned as I slowly (but surely) do this build.
#15
I figure 4wd conversion is the best thing to do. I'm not one for engine swaps on daily drivers.
...unless someone has a cheap 79-98 VW they don't want.
Thanks for the quick response. Yeah I figured so. So.. Any 3.0 4x4 trans will work? or 98+ only?
3.0 4x4's auto's seem to be hard (er) to find. Maybe a 5 speed swap is in order as well..
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Very true. I did that when I did mine. I did all the frontend components one weekend and then did the driveshafts/tranny/t-case a different weekend.