Seats in bed
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A "roll bar" that is simply bolted to the body/bed does more for looks than it does actual protection. But regardless, you'll have to check your local state laws on whether it is legal or not. Chances are it if it is legal, the requirements will be pretty strict regarding how it is bolted down and the seatbelts.
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as of right now, its just an idea that i had, and the only thing i could find as far as laws go in michigan is that you cant be in the bed of a truck going over 15 mph if you're under 18, nothing regarding seats/seatbelts/restraints, this all came about after two tracking last summer when we had two people riding in the cab and two in the bed, which is not only uncomfortable without seats, but illegal at the time because we were all under 18, so just one of those wacky ideas
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For what it's worth here is the law in Michigan
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(lkp...ighlight=truck
So as long as they are over 18 your fine. I still wouldnt do it though
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(lkp...ighlight=truck
257.682b Permitting person under 18 to ride in open bed of pickup truck prohibited; exceptions; civil infraction.
Sec. 682b.
(1) Except as provided in this section, an operator shall not permit a person less than 18 years of age to ride in the open bed of a pickup truck on a highway, road, or street in a city, village, or township at a speed greater than 15 miles per hour.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to the operator of any of the following:
(a) A motor vehicle operated as part of a parade pursuant to a permit issued by the governmental unit with jurisdiction over the highway or street.
(b) A military motor vehicle.
(c) An authorized emergency vehicle.
(d) A motor vehicle controlled or operated by an employer or an employee of a farm operation, construction business, or similar enterprise during the course of work activities.
(e) A motor vehicle used to transport a search and rescue team to and from the site of an emergency.
(3) A person who violates this section is responsible for a civil infraction.
Sec. 682b.
(1) Except as provided in this section, an operator shall not permit a person less than 18 years of age to ride in the open bed of a pickup truck on a highway, road, or street in a city, village, or township at a speed greater than 15 miles per hour.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to the operator of any of the following:
(a) A motor vehicle operated as part of a parade pursuant to a permit issued by the governmental unit with jurisdiction over the highway or street.
(b) A military motor vehicle.
(c) An authorized emergency vehicle.
(d) A motor vehicle controlled or operated by an employer or an employee of a farm operation, construction business, or similar enterprise during the course of work activities.
(e) A motor vehicle used to transport a search and rescue team to and from the site of an emergency.
(3) A person who violates this section is responsible for a civil infraction.
#8
How do you know that his roll bar isn't a "real" one. I always figured that a roll bar that is in the bed that bolts to the frame is a "real" roll bar. I would actually put a bench seat with some seat belts along with a "real" roll bar and then drive around with people in it without a doubt. Of course I wouldn't go on the highway with it and I wouldn't go ripping around off road with them in the back but regular driving I'd consider doing it.
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Haha, They have one of those on the TV show "My name is Earl".
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How do you know that his roll bar isn't a "real" one. I always figured that a roll bar that is in the bed that bolts to the frame is a "real" roll bar. I would actually put a bench seat with some seat belts along with a "real" roll bar and then drive around with people in it without a doubt. Of course I wouldn't go on the highway with it and I wouldn't go ripping around off road with them in the back but regular driving I'd consider doing it.
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im not planning on driving people around on the highway, this would merely be a way of going off road with more people, and not hardcore off road, it would basically be like driving down dirt roads, i would have not intention of driving with people in the bed if there were to be any chance of flipping, as it isnt a true roll bar, its one that mounts to the bed, and i do know they arent meant for more than looks, where i go off road, there arent alot of hardcore trails, and my truck isnt equipped to handle those trails anyway, so i dont really have to worry about flipping
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people who GENERALLY get "roll bars" are the people that want the look. something truly protective is rarely referred to as a "roll bar" at least in the case of trucks. . I dont know of one production "roll bar" that is bolted to the frame. If its bolted to the bed, well then you are trusting small gauge steel (not even taking into account the lack of trianglulation to prevent folding) to protect you from, at the minimum, a few thousand pounds of force....
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