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#19 | | Moderator
I am: David Nicholson Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Williamston, NC
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| Has anyone ever built a 4.0 and then put a blower on it? I have pondered this idea, but how much would the block hold? |
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#20 | | Stage IV Member
I am: Jeremy N. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: OR!
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| More like 75+ Depending on intercooler, water/meth injection, pullies,tune, etc...
The RPcaster kit is well made and is fairly easy to install.. I could sell you my blower if your interested. I'm getting a new one this week!! |
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#22 | | Stage X Member
I am: F150 Raptor is just a F150. Calm down kids. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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Originally Posted by 02oregonedge+ More like 75+ Depending on intercooler, water/meth injection, pullies,tune, etc... | | None of the kits have an intercooler and no one really goes beyond the just bolting on the kit so that's why I said less. EE says about 60 at 5psi with their kit and I know the RP kit only puts out 4.5psi. |
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#23 | | OIF Veteran
I am: Patrick K Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Muskegon, Michigan
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| fourwheeler magazine dyno'd there ranger at and extra 75 horses with the EE kit when they built the project "rangerunner" if i recall correctly |
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#24 | | Stage X Member
I am: F150 Raptor is just a F150. Calm down kids. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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| I re read everything and yeah its more like 74 hp with the EE kit at 6psi while the RP kit runs at 5.5. I was close. LOL Either way I wouldn't do it to this engine. Q: How does this kit compare to the X-Charger kit in your opinion ? They claim to be getting 80 Hp out of their kit - Have you considered getting their chip ? Are you using the same fuel injector size ? Where does one get & how much are they - the Eaton blower ? Mar-05-06 A: The X-Charger is a nice kit, using the Eaton MP62 supercharger. It lists for $3995.00 for the Ford Ranger. My kit uses a larger Eaton M90 supercharger, but it is out of the earlier Thunderbird supercoupe, that you can get on EBAY used from between $120.00 to $250.00. My original intent was to provide a setup for about half the going price. They state they get 74 plus HP at 6 psi boost. Check out the Jan 2006 article Project Range Runner in Four Wheeler magazine. The final Dyno results were 225hp and 257lb ft tq. My Dyno results are 216hp and 250lb ft tq. This relates to me putting out 9hp less and 7lb ft tq less than the X-Charger at 5.5lbs boost. I don't think this is too bad using the stock injectors and maf. Kind of makes you wonder what could be accomplished with a smaller pulley, pick up minimum of 3lbs boost. 30lb injectors instead of the stock 24lb, 80mm gt maf, SCT performance tune, etc. Check out my website and you can see other info. I can say that I've had this setup on my Ranger since last April, with no problems. I've put 22,000 miles on it, and it is my daily driver. I put on aprox 150 miles per day. Any other questions email me at rcaster@yahoo.com. PS check out my website for add'l info.
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#25 | | Stage IV Member
I am: Jeremy N. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: OR!
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Originally Posted by whippersnapper02 None of the kits have an intercooler and no one really goes beyond the just bolting on the kit so that's why I said less. EE says about 60 at 5psi with their kit and I know the RP kit only puts out 4.5psi. | | Ron's kit comes with pluged holes to add water/meth,intercooler. |
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#26 | | The ORIGINAL Fx4wannabe
I am: Shane B Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boring, Oregon
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| Just remember...these numbers.....are chassis dyno numbers....so at the wheels. Your gross gain is more than 75, so 207 + like 100 at the crank = 220ish at the wheels. |
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#27 | | Stage X Member
I am: F150 Raptor is just a F150. Calm down kids. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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Originally Posted by 02oregonedge+ Ron's kit comes with pluged holes to add water/meth,intercooler. | | Is there room for an intercooler? |
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#28 | | The ORIGINAL Fx4wannabe
I am: Shane B Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boring, Oregon
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| Jer...you need to get your truck tuned and thrown on the dyno son! Throw in injectors for the second pass. |
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#29 | | Stage IV Member
I am: Jeremy N. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: OR!
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| So when is shane gonna take the leap into the supercharged world???? |
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#30 | | Moderator
I am: David Nicholson Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Williamston, NC
Posts: 690
| Procharger kits come with an intercooler. I had a local quote me for $3700 installed. That is everything, WITH an intercooler. I suggest looking into procharger. He told me the kit for the rangers are the same as the 4.0 mustang kits. |
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#31 | | Stage IV Member
I am: Jeremy N. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: OR!
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| Their should be room, but looks like it would be tight. I think ron was working on 1 for his kit...
And yes Shane dyno run is coming this summer, around Sept or so..
End thread jack.... |
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#32 | | Stage X Member
I am: F150 Raptor is just a F150. Calm down kids. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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Originally Posted by David N Procharger kits come with an intercooler. I had a local quote me for $3700 installed. That is everything, WITH an intercooler. I suggest looking into procharger. He told me the kit for the rangers are the same as the 4.0 mustang kits. | | Engine bay is different and maybe the throttle body is in a different location. The reason they have an intercooler is because their kits use centrifugal superchargers which are pretty much belt driver turbos while the RP and EE kit use roots type superchargers that mount in place of the intake manifold.
Centrifugal:
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#33 | | Moderator
I am: David Nicholson Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Williamston, NC
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| Yah, I know the difference, but was just saying to look into them. |
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#34 | | Stage X Member
I am: F150 Raptor is just a F150. Calm down kids. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 7,357
| They still wont bolt on. The engine is the same except for maybe the accessory location and the bay that its in. |
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#35 | | Love it or shove it!
I am: Tyler Martin Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Originally Posted by whippersnapper02 EE will pass smog and the RP kit wont. At least in CA it wont. If you have a guy that will look past it when the time comes then go with the RP kit. | | i live in nevada. smog consists of plugging into the obd2 port and thats it lol
i wont have a problem. |
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#36 | | Love it or shove it!
I am: Tyler Martin Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 3,789
| a centrifugal would be nice, but i'd much prefer a roots type blower. for a few reasons. one i have a bunch of experience with them and can service it with my eyes closed almost. second, the m90 is one hell of a supercharger. it doesnt put out big numbers, but its efficient and lasts, with little maintenence. |
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