how much boost on a 4.0
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how much boost on a 4.0
ok after a little research i see the 05+ mustangs v6 are running up to 20 psi boost with no internals touched and i`m a bit confused.. i was under the impression that if we ran that much on our 4.0 sohc it would blow the f up.. so my question is how much boost are your 4.0 guys running with no internals touched? and what you are running if you have some internals touched.
edit: on a turbo.
edit: on a turbo.
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could someone shed some light on this??
@offroad
some mustang forum.. i think allfordmustangs.com and they were discussing a turbo and this one company
http://powerhouse411.com/catalog/ind...products_id=77
that turbo kit comes with a 9, 11, 20 psi spring for the wastegate....
can i assume that we can run 9 psi on our trucks???
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what am i looking for in this??? doesn:t it say we have the same engine..
i dont want to debate if the engine is same or not.. just if i can plus my motor to the same boost..
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how do you know???
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Just keep adding boost until it blows up. Then go down a couple of pounds and your set. LOL
I'm not sure if the 4.0 in the Mustang is exactly the same but they are similar. Maybe different cams and different intake plenum. The Ranger 4.0 puts out 207hp @ 5250rpm and 238tq @ 3000rpm while the Mustang 4.0 puts out 210hp @ 5300rpm and 240tq @ 3500rpm.
Check out PDP. NicksterSVT owns/ co-owns(not sure) it and he is a member here. Before he went turbo his truck was putting 450ish to the wheels with a blower on a fully built motor(i think). All I know is that his truck hauls *** and it revs up to 8000 rpm.
I'm not sure if the 4.0 in the Mustang is exactly the same but they are similar. Maybe different cams and different intake plenum. The Ranger 4.0 puts out 207hp @ 5250rpm and 238tq @ 3000rpm while the Mustang 4.0 puts out 210hp @ 5300rpm and 240tq @ 3500rpm.
Check out PDP. NicksterSVT owns/ co-owns(not sure) it and he is a member here. Before he went turbo his truck was putting 450ish to the wheels with a blower on a fully built motor(i think). All I know is that his truck hauls *** and it revs up to 8000 rpm.
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so stock internals with 6 psi.. just below 300hp to the rear wheel sound good???
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Just keep adding boost until it blows up. Then go down a couple of pounds and your set. LOL
I'm not sure if the 4.0 in the Mustang is exactly the same but they are similar. Maybe different cams and different intake plenum. The Ranger 4.0 puts out 207hp @ 5250rpm and 238tq @ 3000rpm while the Mustang 4.0 puts out 210hp @ 5300rpm and 240tq @ 3500rpm.
Check out PDP. NicksterSVT owns/ co-owns(not sure) it and he is a member here. Before he went turbo his truck was putting 450ish to the wheels with a blower on a fully built motor(i think). All I know is that his truck hauls *** and it revs up to 8000 rpm.
I'm not sure if the 4.0 in the Mustang is exactly the same but they are similar. Maybe different cams and different intake plenum. The Ranger 4.0 puts out 207hp @ 5250rpm and 238tq @ 3000rpm while the Mustang 4.0 puts out 210hp @ 5300rpm and 240tq @ 3500rpm.
Check out PDP. NicksterSVT owns/ co-owns(not sure) it and he is a member here. Before he went turbo his truck was putting 450ish to the wheels with a blower on a fully built motor(i think). All I know is that his truck hauls *** and it revs up to 8000 rpm.
those numbers seem to reflect that they are exactly the same engine.. haha. a difference of 2 or 3 seems to be in the margin of error... (i just took that AP Stats test and already how to prove this stuff... FYI i did pass... )
i dont think i'll be building a motor here.. way out of my budget.. and i also remember what happens when you try to raise a low reving engine to 8000rpm..
http://www.orlandoforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=93166
loved this when i was on the nissan forums.
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do you know how much boost that charger was pushing when it was at 300hp .. also what year the truck was_???
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i have got contradicting information in less than 30 mins.. one person says 6 psi is the max.. and one says 9psi no probelm.. maybe even 12..
piston failure??? what do you mean once increasing the boost???
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he means guys start out at 6 increase to 9 maybe 12 and they have engine troubles.
almost everyone that i know that bought a supercharger and put it on a ranger is either near their 2nd engine or is in the process of rebuilding it.
D.
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i said you can run 9 or 12, for how long not sure? i bet you could get away with running 9-12 at the track then dropping that back down to 5 or 6 for daily commute. I think air temps come into effect as well. There are some guys effectively using the power with some water injection or an intercooler.
With current track record I think you should go into planning on a new engine in the future or always the possibility of it blowing.
almost everyone that i know that bought a supercharger and put it on a ranger is either near their 2nd engine or is in the process of rebuilding it.
D.
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i said you can run 9 or 12, for how long not sure? i bet you could get away with running 9-12 at the track then dropping that back down to 5 or 6 for daily commute. I think air temps come into effect as well. There are some guys effectively using the power with some water injection or an intercooler.
With current track record I think you should go into planning on a new engine in the future or always the possibility of it blowing.
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I wouldn't even trust upping the boost for the track, if you want more power there are other ways to do it.
5-6 PSI is going to be good for at least 220-230 RWHP, with headers, exhaust, MAF, injectors, and a dyno tune you MAY be able to reach 250 RWHP. This is depending if you are auto/manual or 4x2/4x4.
5-6 PSI is going to be good for at least 220-230 RWHP, with headers, exhaust, MAF, injectors, and a dyno tune you MAY be able to reach 250 RWHP. This is depending if you are auto/manual or 4x2/4x4.
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he means guys start out at 6 increase to 9 maybe 12 and they have engine troubles.
almost everyone that i know that bought a supercharger and put it on a ranger is either near their 2nd engine or is in the process of rebuilding it.
D.
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the list goes on.
i said you can run 9 or 12, for how long not sure? i bet you could get away with running 9-12 at the track then dropping that back down to 5 or 6 for daily commute. I think air temps come into effect as well. There are some guys effectively using the power with some water injection or an intercooler.
With current track record I think you should go into planning on a new engine in the future or always the possibility of it blowing.
almost everyone that i know that bought a supercharger and put it on a ranger is either near their 2nd engine or is in the process of rebuilding it.
D.
NicksterSVT
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440volt
the list goes on.
i said you can run 9 or 12, for how long not sure? i bet you could get away with running 9-12 at the track then dropping that back down to 5 or 6 for daily commute. I think air temps come into effect as well. There are some guys effectively using the power with some water injection or an intercooler.
With current track record I think you should go into planning on a new engine in the future or always the possibility of it blowing.
I am pretty sure Nick swapped for a different pulley (more boost), what about the others?
With a good tune and if you keep it at 5-6 PSI there shouldnt be an issue.
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half of them did and half didnt. if you get to searching around you will find more with the same issues.
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450hp to the *wheels* on Nicks ride? I would have LOVED to achieve that! ( I think he would have as well! ).
I gave up on running boost and just use a bottle. Easier, cheaper in cost.
To make a 400 wheel HP engine your looking at a fully built motor from Super-six and and induction setup.
Shortblock is 3500$
http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...dInternals.pdf
Heads are another 1700$
Cams are another 600$
http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...6HeadsCams.pdf
Right there is 5800$.
Now an induction setup?
"Our Stage 3 heads and 211 regrind cams have been tested to new peak power levels of 440 RWHP and 388 RWTQ on a 5-speed 4.0 Mustang with ProCharger supercharger at 14 PSI maximum boost on a SuperFlow chassis dyno!"
WoW, 440 HP!
A Procharger setup runs about 3500$ at a discounted price and you have plumbing like no-other for its innercooler!
Your looking at 10 grand for an engine thats pushing its limits and is more then likely a maintenance queen.
http://www.nthcoast.com/store/produc...roducts_id=386
Thats unboosted and WELL BUILT! You can find a wrecked exploder to yank what you need for the engine swap or use OEM parts if need be. Cheaper and MUCH more reliable.
I gave up on running boost and just use a bottle. Easier, cheaper in cost.
To make a 400 wheel HP engine your looking at a fully built motor from Super-six and and induction setup.
Shortblock is 3500$
http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...dInternals.pdf
Heads are another 1700$
Cams are another 600$
http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...6HeadsCams.pdf
Right there is 5800$.
Now an induction setup?
"Our Stage 3 heads and 211 regrind cams have been tested to new peak power levels of 440 RWHP and 388 RWTQ on a 5-speed 4.0 Mustang with ProCharger supercharger at 14 PSI maximum boost on a SuperFlow chassis dyno!"
WoW, 440 HP!
A Procharger setup runs about 3500$ at a discounted price and you have plumbing like no-other for its innercooler!
Your looking at 10 grand for an engine thats pushing its limits and is more then likely a maintenance queen.
http://www.nthcoast.com/store/produc...roducts_id=386
Thats unboosted and WELL BUILT! You can find a wrecked exploder to yank what you need for the engine swap or use OEM parts if need be. Cheaper and MUCH more reliable.
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