Anyone swamp a 5.0 explorer engine into a 04+ ranger?

Just wondered what wiring you had to re-do.

Could you swamp over a 03 wiring harness?

 

You were told it was hard!!! I guess Zabeards website is not good enough for you? lol j/j

 

I belive you all, just wondered who all did it. Looking for examples and more detail. Plus zachs site on has like 10 ppl lol

 

Yea I want to know too. I hate my 3.0

 

At the Cracker Barrel meet Bob discussed this in great detail with Chad... Not a simple procedure. Unless you dont care about several electronic devices.

 

When I hear bob talk I get confused lol.

What devices?

What about a 04+ 4.6 out of a mustang?


I think its going to be easier just to trade in on a bigger truck lol

 

I really don't think that anyone has done it yet. Honestly the only thing you would have left after the swap would be the 04 body and interior. You'd have to change out everything, swap all the wiring over. Like I was saying in the other thread the 04s use a SJB instead of a GEM. You would have to swap almost every single wiring thing over, change the gauges back to 03 and tons of other stuff. It would be easier just buying a 03-

 

Gothca - I kinda wanted to do this, but then again I really had no reason too.
I was just kidna bored and wanted to research if it was possible.

I would love to do this later after I where to move out and have my own shop, but right now its not worth selling my truck and buying another to do it.

 

im going to do it, it may take me a while but i will

 

It's very doable you just have to know what your doing wiring wise and be very detailed. I'd love to do it to mine.

 

Maybe later when my engine takes a pueeck

 

I need to look into this further. I know the gages changed and went to electronic Odometer, but what are the major changes that cause the issues? And SJB and PCM have nothing to do with one another. All fuel injected for vehicles have a PCM or some sort. There are several different software versions.

An SJB is a smart junction box more similar to a GEM - general electronics module.

I have thought hard about selling my 1999 and making my 2005 the project truck, now this throws another twist.

Bob, what do you see as the issues?

 

Oh crap thats what I meant, GEM not PCM. I'll fix my post.

 

Here's a good thread on swapping a 5.0 into a 04+:
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=60281

 

just buy my truck

 

Here are my thoughts on Ranger V8 swaps derived from reading and from my experiences while swapping my 2003. No guarantees but I think this is accurate.

1997-back has good aftermarket support with many off-the-shelf swap components that will match up just about any small block Ford V8.

1998~2000 Rangers are a very close cousin to the 99~2001 Explorer 5.0L so, IMO, these are the best choice for an easy later model Ranger V8 swap. VSS and ABS, the fuel system and most of the electrical system are a very good match. 99~00 V6's have the same Type B PATS system. All 98 Rangers and 99~00 4-cylinders would need a simple PATS transplant or a countermeasure to defeat it.

2001~2003 adds some funnies with the PATS, 4WABS and the VSS. Still, the vast majority of the wiring is compatible with the 99~01 Explorer engine/trans/PCM/fuel system.

2004~2006 Rangers had a complete harness tearup compared to earlier years - almost nothing was left untouched with a lot of routing, connector and color code changes. Also, from my perspective, the electronic cluster might be an issue. Unlike earlier years, the 2004~2006 has an onboard microprocessor that is tied into many vehicle functions and talks to the PCM over the Module Communication Network. It is not clear how many problems this might cause and that probably won't be known until someone actually tries it. I suspect that it would be doable but might be a pretty serious can of worms.

2007~2008 have the newer 175-pin PowerPC processor, all new harnesses with new color codes and connectors and a revised Smart Junction Box. They also got an all new cluster/microprocessor that took over the PATS function among other things. The speedometer no longer gets its info from a dedicated wire but appears to communicate it over the CAN bus. These trucks have everything that could make a 04~06 complicated only MUCH more so.

 

someone peed in my cheerios

 

after talking to Bob the last Cracker Barrel meet I believe it would be cheaper and alot easier to just supercharge it.

 

BIngo

 

but are the gains vs cost worth going SC route? I've been contemplating doing it, but it hasn't been appearing worth it lately.

 

I think so. Also look at down time you could probably do the supercharger in a weekend were as the v8 will most likely be a least a month if not more.

 

^ depending on how much time you have and if you have all the parts. i know some have done the swap in a weekend. But yeah the SC is deffinetly a faster less painful job. At somepoint if i still have my truck, later on I'd like to SC the 5.0