Ford Introduces Three New Light-Duty Engines for 2011 F-150
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Ford Introduces Three New Light-Duty Engines for 2011 F-150
Ford Introduces Three New Light-Duty Engines for 2011 F-150 Pickup Trucks - PickupTrucks.com News
The best-selling half-ton truck in the country is getting an all-new engine lineup for 2011. Ford is replacing its legacy two-valve and three-valve 4.6-liter V-8 twins and the venerable three-valve 5.4-liter V-8 in the F-150 with technically advanced six- and eight-cylinder engines that Ford says will be the most fuel-efficient in the industry. The truck maker is also shifting exclusively to six-speed automatic transmissions for every powertrain.
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isn't it supposed to be a 3.7 not a 3.5?
EDIT: i saw that they plan to have two 3.? engines. a 3.5 and a 3.7. i was taken back when i saw that the 3.5 is gonna be making 400hp. wait, so why would i buy a 5.0 that makes less over a 3.5? that's some politics right there. why does a v6 make more hp then a v8? kinda like giving a v6 to the f-150 and a v8 to a ranger (far fetched but along those lines)
also, i came across this today: http://www.driving.ca/2011+Ford+engi...754/story.html
EDIT: i saw that they plan to have two 3.? engines. a 3.5 and a 3.7. i was taken back when i saw that the 3.5 is gonna be making 400hp. wait, so why would i buy a 5.0 that makes less over a 3.5? that's some politics right there. why does a v6 make more hp then a v8? kinda like giving a v6 to the f-150 and a v8 to a ranger (far fetched but along those lines)
also, i came across this today: http://www.driving.ca/2011+Ford+engi...754/story.html
Last edited by morris; 08-12-2010 at 08:51 AM. Reason: edit: loked at chart a second time
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Clutch was only a 4.2 V6 option in the 05 trucks (04 there was no V6 in the new body style for regular sale only for fleet sales, as you could still get the old body style as a "heritage" edition with a 4.2 and a manual).
Basically the problem is, manual transmissions that are built for pickup use (ie. pulling and hauling) are clunky and heavy feeling. The modern pickup buyer would not put up with it as they want it to shift like a car. Now that coupled with the fact that auto tranny's are leap years ahead of what they were 20 years ago, and the demand for having a 8000+ towing rating on even half ton trucks, the manual transmission for pickups is all but dead.
Now me personally, I think it would be awesome to get a "sport" pickup with a big V8 and a T-56, even if the tow rating has to be knocked in half.
~HJ
Basically the problem is, manual transmissions that are built for pickup use (ie. pulling and hauling) are clunky and heavy feeling. The modern pickup buyer would not put up with it as they want it to shift like a car. Now that coupled with the fact that auto tranny's are leap years ahead of what they were 20 years ago, and the demand for having a 8000+ towing rating on even half ton trucks, the manual transmission for pickups is all but dead.
Now me personally, I think it would be awesome to get a "sport" pickup with a big V8 and a T-56, even if the tow rating has to be knocked in half.
~HJ
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~HJ
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I may have to finally test drive new f150s when the new engines are out. lol
I'm really not in the market for a new truck, but I would be interested to check out the new engine/tranny combos.
I'm still a little skeptical of the twin turbo v6 in a truck, but with two turbos it ought to get on the boost quickly with the smaller turbo. Should be interesting. I'm glad to see them stepping up the game and offering more poweful engines though.
I'm really not in the market for a new truck, but I would be interested to check out the new engine/tranny combos.
I'm still a little skeptical of the twin turbo v6 in a truck, but with two turbos it ought to get on the boost quickly with the smaller turbo. Should be interesting. I'm glad to see them stepping up the game and offering more poweful engines though.
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Price will be the big factor, I think new pickups are insane. I was looking at 2010 Rams the other day (what can I say, I fell in love with them) and the dealer could do better for me on an F-150 with arguably the same options. Both were still 42K stickers! That was loaded super duty territoty whenin 2004. I never got to negotiations, but he said they had more wiggle room with Fords. I just don't like 09+ F-150's though.
~HJ
~HJ
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Although being that the 5.0L is a car engine and is replacing the 4.6L, I wouldn't want it. Sounds like the torque is moved up quite a bit in the RPMs.
I still can't imagine what idiot would want an NA v6 in an F150, but whatever. The 4.6L was a slug, just imagine how the V6 will be. lol
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Actually, You'd be surprised. They had their place. Especially, in a 4X2 reg cab long bed, that is used for work, it was more than adequite. I actually preferred it to the one truck we had in the fleet that had a 4.6 (this was back in 98-04). They had more than enought power to get through traffic, they got decent gas mileage, and they were pretty reliable. I personally put about 300K miles on the 4.2 combined over the years I worked there and never had an engine problem.
~HJ
~HJ
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I wouldn't be that surprised, I have driven a lot of them. lol
I sold Fords in 03/04, so have plenty of time behind the wheel. They work, and I guess in a 4x2 reg cab they would be alright as a parts truck or something. Although the 4.2L with a manual trans wasn't all that bad, seems like it had decent torque. I don't remember numbers off hand but I would be surprised if the smaller v6 in the heavier new F150 is even as good as the 4.2 in the older body style. But I could be wrong, and a company who is paying for it as a delivery truck probably wouldn't care.
It's just not something I would ever choose to drive. Gotta do what the consumers want though. It's just too bad that also means dumping any possibility of manual transmissions because most americans are too stupid to know how to drive one. haha
I sold Fords in 03/04, so have plenty of time behind the wheel. They work, and I guess in a 4x2 reg cab they would be alright as a parts truck or something. Although the 4.2L with a manual trans wasn't all that bad, seems like it had decent torque. I don't remember numbers off hand but I would be surprised if the smaller v6 in the heavier new F150 is even as good as the 4.2 in the older body style. But I could be wrong, and a company who is paying for it as a delivery truck probably wouldn't care.
It's just not something I would ever choose to drive. Gotta do what the consumers want though. It's just too bad that also means dumping any possibility of manual transmissions because most americans are too stupid to know how to drive one. haha
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i like the new motor options and i understand what they are doing with the V6 engines trying to get the mileage and such, but while the numbers are impressive i still am curious to see how they tow. i know the torque numbers are close to the older V8's but the peak torque is made alot higher in the RPM range than the V8's so unless the new trans is built to take advantage of that i still dont think even the 5.0 will pull better than the old 5.4 3V. the 6.2 on the other hand will blow it out of the water.