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Originally Posted by Pittsburgh Paul
Thanks for the good words. I wonder if the disk brakes in back will be easy to replace. I've always had better luck doing disk brake shoe replacements rather than drums.

It looks to me like you have a nice piece of truck there yourself, plus you probably owe less on it than I do mine.
As for your rad protection. I used dog proof screen from my local hardware store (pretty strong stuff) on my 2003 Jeep Rubicon. As the grill was quite open as well. Just cut to fit the area and zip tied it in front of the rad an inch or so away from it. It's an inexspensive solution to protect your rad. Had in place for 7 years (200,000km) and never needed replacement. I found with my other three prior Jeeps I had without a screen stones / debre and large insects would clog and bend the fins on my rad (hense the screen on my fourth Jeep). I will be doing the same with my 2010 Ranger. You can barely notice it there, it's so far back from the grill.

Those Mazda rims you got there are not an option here in CND for 2010 4x4's. Only an option on the 2010 4x2's in CND.

Could I ask you for your ride hieght measurements? From bottom of fender / flare to the ground.
I well be posting my ride hieght measurements today.

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Originally Posted by NightmareFX4
Could I ask you for your ride hieght measurements? From bottom of fender / flare to the ground.
I well be posting my ride hieght measurements today.

Thanks
Back wheel
Behind mud flap 19 1/2"
At center of wheel to fender 34 5/16"
In front of back wheel 17"

Front wheel
Behind wheel 14 5/8"
At center of wheel to fender 33 3/16"
in front of front wheel 12 1/2"

(all dimensions are to the ground)
 
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i truly am jealous of your rear disc brakes. You see you also have a first there. No Ranger before 2010 had rear disc brakes, only drum brakes.
Mine does

Originally Posted by Fx4wannabe01
no FACTORY ranger. end users have been putting discs on the back of these trucks for quite some time now...
haha damn it shane beat me to it
 
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Originally Posted by Pittsburgh Paul
Back wheel
Behind mud flap 19 1/2"
At center of wheel to fender 34 5/16"
In front of back wheel 17"

Front wheel
Behind wheel 14 5/8"
At center of wheel to fender 33 3/16"
in front of front wheel 12 1/2"

(all dimensions are to the ground)
im about an inch taller stock.
 
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Originally Posted by Pittsburgh Paul
Back wheel
Behind mud flap 19 1/2"
At center of wheel to fender 34 5/16"
In front of back wheel 17"

Front wheel
Behind wheel 14 5/8"
At center of wheel to fender 33 3/16"
in front of front wheel 12 1/2"

(all dimensions are to the ground)
Hey Paul

Thanks for all of your deminsions.

The ones I'm looking at are your:

Back Wheel
At center of wheel to fender 34 5/16" Mine is 34 3/4" (same as 34 12/16) = 7/16" Higher

Front Wheel
At center of wheel to fender 33 3/16" Mine is 33 3/4" (same as 33 12/16) = 1/2" Higher

What this confirms to me is the 2010 FX4 Model is 1/2" Higher in the front and 7/16" Higher in the back than other 2010 Ranger 4x4 models. So there is a differance in ride hieght, interesting. Good info to know. I am still interested in finding out the dimensions for the stock pre 08+ 4x4 model years with the different stepped torsion key (preferably 06 & 07 models).

Perfect comparision for me would be a stock 2007 FX4 to my stock 2010 FX4 (no lifts, tires size change or torsion cranks / bone stock) Anybody?

Really would like to know how much the 07 torsion key really does change the ride hieght in 08+ models if at all (without crank). Going over many posts of this mod, I find quite a varying dregree of specs. which have not been consistant.

I've heard gains of 1/2" right up to 3" with the 07 key to 08+ mod (1/2" to 1" maybe, not convinced yet, and as for 3" gain lmao really come on ppl with no crank)

Thanks again
 

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Originally Posted by Downey
im about an inch taller stock.
That would make your truck ride hieght 5/16" higher in the back and 1/2" higher in the front than a 2010 FX4. That makes sense to me.

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Some things to consider: To compare "apples to apples", you have to have the exact same tires with the same amount of wear and with the same air pressure on both trucks. I wonder how much the truck would raise if I added 5 lbs of air pressure to the tires... Also, the trucks have to be loaded similarly. If I have an empty open bed, and you have a cap, you are not comparing "apples to apples". Just thought I'd complicate things a little for you...
 
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I dont see anything wrong with it, Plenty of trucks are just like that. I would leave it be, looks good and works, no sense in messing with it IMO.
i dunno, the rad/tranny cooler on my truck definitely don't show through the opening in my valance on my 08. I've got a few things imbedded in my rad through the grille but i have the stx/sport grille. I'd just go with what people are saying about the wire mesh in the grille, It looks pretty good when done right too anyways (at least i think it does)
 
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Originally Posted by Pittsburgh Paul
Some things to consider: To compare "apples to apples", you have to have the exact same tires with the same amount of wear and with the same air pressure on both trucks. I wonder how much the truck would raise if I added 5 lbs of air pressure to the tires... Also, the trucks have to be loaded similarly. If I have an empty open bed, and you have a cap, you are not comparing "apples to apples". Just thought I'd complicate things a little for you...
Good points ya got there Paul. The FXR4 07 and my FXR4 10 both have 31" tires stock (no load, stock tire pressures, would be my best comparison for sure). And I would assome (only assome! they would not have there tires over or under inflated and set to the tire specs. and be measuring with out a load on for proper factory specs.).

Yes mine has a cap weighting 148lbs and a full size 31" spare (Goodyear MTR's (53lbs each) not Goodyear RT/S's (37lbs each) / an added weight of 17lbs). And the factory bed liner (not sure what that wieghts). So in actuallity my truck would spec out even higher than my currently posted ride hieghts (unloaded). Maybe an added 1/8" to 1/4" max higher if that much at all???, if I did not have my current additional 165lbs + box liner wieght?).

I will be removing my truck cap soon (for the summer / I bought the cap for winter use / wieght). And I will remeasure my ride hieghts and post them here.

My 245/75R16's 31" MTR's (actual factory size 30.7") gives me a .3" higher ride hieght, over the factory P255/70R16''s 30" RT/S's (actual factory size 30.1") that actually come on the 2010 FX4 stock. Assoming again (like your say) that both trucks tire wear and pressures are relatively the same.

In the end, I am just looking for that more realistic ball park figure, of the real differance in ride hieght between 07 and 08+ 4x4 ranger models. And not a bunch of specs from people that vary so much, or are purely out to lunch, lololol.
 
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Quite frankly, f*ck 2010 Ranger. No offense to you but Ford turned the Ranger into an old man truck for the 2010-2011 years. They deleted the FX4 package, they made them lower, and they are MOST DEFIANTLY not suited for off-roading so don't even bother. I was gonna but a new Ranger next year and ditch my 2000 POS but I'm waiting for the 2012 redesigned. I can't believe they made the last 2 years of the old Rangers life it's worst. Good call Ford.
 
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Its ok, your'e entitled to your opinion. When I first looked underneath, I thought it looked odd that the torsion bars and their housings seem to hang so much lower compared to just about everything else under there. I got the trusty tape measure out and measured from ground to the bottom of the torsion bar housing. It was 9 1/8". The control arm has 8" of clearance. For me this is probably adequate for navigating the rough pavement and pot holes around Pittsburgh. When I am sitting in the cab, I like the height that I am sitting at. It is high enough to have a good view, but not so high as to give nosebleeds or feel unstable. I'll admit, I didn't buy the truck primarily for heavy off-road use.The type of off-roading I do is realtively lightweight compared to what some of you guys do. I just hope the 4WD works good in the snow. Here in Pittsburgh with all the hills and snow and ice in the winter, that is what is most important to me. I'm thinking this truck will be a winner in that regard.
 

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um no.. the 08's were a true 1.5-2'' lower, a buddy of mine has a bone stock 08' FX4 and I have a bone stock 06' FX4 and I had at least 1.5'' more between the top of my tires and the fender flares, and my tires were 31'' vs. his stock rt/s which are smaller.

Its very obvious when an 01-07 ranger is next to an 08+
 
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yeah, why is there confusion, rangers were lowered in 08 to try and improve gas mileage
 
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lol im with you casey, but that sux the newer ones sit so low, the first time i seen one i thought it was a 2wd.
 
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Ewww......52. Haha, but really, the 2010 is fine for city and fleet use but they really dropped the ball on the whole "geared toward younger buyers". Luckily, I think they are still offering the EDGE. Maybe, not for sure on that one.
 
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Sticky thread on top of suspension section covers all this stuff including tons pics and the naming of the mod: PreKey. You can't miss the thread title either... lol

It's true....08+ torsion bar trucks are lowered about 1.5-2" up front compared to 07 and older. And lowered 1" - .5" in the back as well(1" on 4x4's, 1/2" on 2wd's...both share a 1.5" block on 08+) Something to also make note of....08+ Fx4's come with 16's standard and XLT's and Sports have 15's standard. XLT/Sports get 235/75R15's(28's) and those with 16's got 255/70R16(30's). There's a good difference in height enough for people to say Fx4's are taller. Which they really aren't.

Hope that clears some stuff up.






Kevin Cline.....there's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many threads on why our trucks are sooooo outdated, why start up that crap in this thread?
 

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^^ nice write up
 
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Originally Posted by Masteratarms93
Quite frankly, f*ck 2010 Ranger. No offense to you but Ford turned the Ranger into an old man truck for the 2010-2011 years. They deleted the FX4 package, they made them lower, and they are MOST DEFIANTLY not suited for off-roading so don't even bother. I was gonna but a new Ranger next year and ditch my 2000 POS but I'm waiting for the 2012 redesigned. I can't believe they made the last 2 years of the old Rangers life it's worst. Good call Ford.
Guess I could say the same thing about your 2000 Ford Ranger XLT 2.5L. Now that's an old man truck. No offense to you. But 2.5L really weak compared to a 4.0L! Jealousy will get you no were lol (4 wheel disc factory for 2010). As for the FX4 being deleted. I'm in Canada and it's not been deleted here. I own a 2010 FX4 (sorry about your luck). And as for 2010 MOST DEFIANTLY not suited for off-roading. What the hang are ya talking about. There's no difference than any other stock 4x4 Ranger when it comes to off-roading capability (for the most part / but we are talking ride hieght here, right?). Except for being a very little lower. I think I will bother to make it more Off Road capable. Which can easily be fixed on the cheap. In my case I have these items allready a PA 1"BL, Belltech 6400 Shackles ($150CND total with all bolts) and crank my #1 Torsion Bars (free) = 3" lift in front and 2.5" lift in the back. And 32" (32" actual) to 33" (33" actual) tires are going on to replace my 31" (30.7" actual). Tires from stock 255 70/R16's 30" (30.1" actual) = another .95" to 1.45" of lift.

Total lift at the end of the day 3.95" (32" tires) to 4.45" (33" tires) of lift in front and 3.45" (32" tires) to 3.95" (33" tires) of lift in the rear. Off Road capable, I think so.

I'll high light this again for those that did not follow:

Paul's and my ride hieght specs prove the CND 2010 FX4 has dropped less in ride hieght than other non 2010 FX4 4x4 Ranger models.

2010 FX4 Model is 1/2" Higher in the front and 7/16" Higher in the back than other 2010 Ranger 4x4 models. (and that's with my extra 165lbs+ of load / with out load it may be even higher)

Back Wheel
At center of wheel to fender 34 5/16" Mine is 34 3/4" (same as 34 12/16) = 7/16" Higher

Front Wheel
At center of wheel to fender 33 3/16" Mine is 33 3/4" (same as 33 12/16) = 1/2" Higher

I will say this though. Most of what I'm hearing is coming from US sources. Which we all know now, can not acquire a 2010 FX4 to compare ride hieghts to anything. So this is what I'm doing. US has 08-09 FX4's but no 2010 FX4 to compare. And from what I'm hearing people are just assoming the CND 2010 FX4 is the same ride hieght as US 08-09 FX4's. Never just assome!
 

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Originally Posted by Fx4wannabe01
Kevin Cline.....there's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many threads on why our trucks are sooooo outdated, why start up that crap in this thread?
Ha sorry. Didn't mean to make it about my truck. I just added the "POS" for effect. The post was more about my disappointment in the 2010's and how Ford is ruining the last years of the 4th gen.

Oh, and I was unaware that FX4 is still available in Canada. I made that mistake in another thread also.
 
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