both tires are good, but the M/T's dont get sideways traction in snow and ice........and they are not the best in the rain.......

next set i have will be the M/T's...

 

They don't make traction bars for the front which is what he was talking about.

Shane I knew you were from his area and I'm glad you are willing to help.

 

^^^ahhhh i miss understood it for the rear.......when you get wheel hop in the front you are already stuck.....you have lost momentium and need to try again after you get unstuck....

 

idk bill said his did awesome on their trip up north.

my MTRs tear through the snow.

 

Most definitely willing to help. I've had two rangers and have torn them apart a crap load of times. Now this F-250 PSD she's whole nother beast hehe. But of course i'd help. Love to work on trucks. Just need to know where he is since he's in SW. PA it can't be that far away from me.

 

With the extra siping they have, the Mickey Thompson MTZ's have been OUTSTANDING on wet roads -- no kidding. These tires are absolutely amazing for M/T's.

 

yea my brother has the MTZ's on his Cummins.......it is a sweet tire and wears really good......

 

MTZ is probably not good on rocks though. Often, anything that wears well is a hard rubber and doesn't have grip on rocks. Although, their street traction isn't bad so maybe that's not so.

But I don't drive on rocks so I guess it's "academic", lol...

 

i thought the better wearing tires were a softer tires i dunno maybe not....

 

From what I understand better wearing is harder compound, better traction is softer compound.

 

No, the longer lasting tires USUALLY have a harder rubber and worse traction (depends on the surface). Better traction has a softer rubber and a shorter life span. have you ever seen a Mickey Thompson ET Street? There are soooo soft that when you get them hot, they get real stickey and so soft you can push your finger into them. Hense the name sticky mickeys!

 

ahhhh^ thanks for correcting me...

 

don't downplay the 4wd abilities of a ranger! i've driven in a foot of snow, with no wheel hop and no other problems!

 

FYI.. traditional wheel hop cant happen in the front of our trucks unless you have some seriously bad joints.. iv never had this problem even when i was locked front and rear.. im also the local cyclone "King"

 

I'm doubting pilot error. Here's a few of my thoughts.

Maybe 4wd just isn't properly engauging. I'm not familiar enough with Ranger 4wd to go into any details, but it seems very likely.

Did the tires/wheels have ice built up on a portion of them to throw the balancing off? Could snow have just been packed on the tire towards one side?

Are the lugs tight? In 2wd it might not show since the front's not being driven, but once in 4wd and it's spinning wildly in the snow, it starts it's death wobble.

Do you know for sure that the fronts were actually even spinning while in 4wd?

Just my mental ramblings. Good luck.

 

Ok, get off the operator error. I HAD the same problem. Turned out my outer u-joint was bad, and it had been replaced about 10k miles before.

Check those joints and free play on the shafts.

 

i like that pic Zach...looks like you had some fun there buddy.

 

you my friend are vveeeerrryyyy wrong....either there is somthing wrong with your truck or you cant drive...and im not tryin to offend you but i mean with my moms 02 caravan i can make it up a snow covered hil no problem and that thing is front wheel drive, and when it comes to my ranger i never had a problem when in 4wd. If anything like most of the guys i would not be here if it wasnt for 4wd. And i could not even believe how well my truck performed in 4wlo, no joke last year during the fall i went with my truck through this valley that if you go in with 2wd your not getting back up the hill you came, you need 4wlo and my trucked walked up that hill no problem, with a/ts, on a sandy/dirt type hill and no hop what so ever! again not saying your a bad driver but for your ranger to do that seems highly akward.

 

i can just imagine the vibrations if you took that on the highway.

 

I have had that happen before. I was messing around and stopped on a slope. Then tried to get going and was sorta stuck. I backed up and gave it some gas. Did it again with even more gas and made it to the top, hopping quite a bit. It only happens to me if I'm giving the truck too much gas in a certain situation which is uaually snow or sand. I've never had it happen on dirt or mud.

 

Ok guys, I need to recant a little of what I said, as I am really into Rangers after owning 5 of them, and this episode really had me steamed.....I went back to the same place tonight in my Jeep Cherokee also w/ BFG Long Trails, and repeated the same process, wondering what a solid axle set up would do in the same conditions, as it has never hopped before.......Well guess what......IT HOPPED too!!! Aparently the snow/ terrain conditions on that hill right now are making it very tough to not get some wheel hop. It was controllable as I could back out of the gas enough to shake most of the wheel hop, but it never does that. I realize independent suspension is more prone to this to begin with, and after thinking about this most of the day, I had to go test the theroy.

BTW, the BFG Long Trails are actually a great tire for me, as I do tons of highway driving, and they wear extremely well and are awesome in the rain.....Def. not a tire for 4 wheelin though.

 

^^^it hopped because you got stuck.....

if you do a lot of highway driving, next time you need tires, try the BFG A/T's....you will LOVE them better than the Long Trails....

 

mine hopped a little bit tonight when i was going up my uncles driveway. It is gravel and had about a foot of untouched hard snow and ice on it. It hopped a little in 4 hi and then I got stuck near the crest of the top. Backed down and creeped up in 4 low with no hop at all.

 

It really seems to have alot to do with the conditions at hand....Glad I'm not the only one.

 

actually no. got stuck had to walk home over 3/4 of a mile that night in very cold temps. lol

i wouldn't recommend wheeling alone in snow at night next to a creek. i hit a run off from the field 10' drop.