wow we've gone down hill from telling me to search to tying to punk each other...Dope

 

sigh wow. this is interesting. hmm

 

Isnt it your bedtime?

 

Gil please stop...just stop clicking this thread.

 

pshhh... a thing called a time zone bud...seattle??? 12:30 here, your right it is my bed time...

 

So, If you are having them professionally installed what's the question? I don't get it... I've yet to see a set back from installing a spindle on a truck man.

 

i was trying to say that it wasnt a easy install and that you have to make alterations to make them perform well... i.e. grind down control arms to improve turning radius...and i wanted to know what other alterations i had to make

 

Eh... If they are going to professtionally install them for you, they should do all that for you. I have seen Pro Comp spindles in action on some hard core offroading. Never seen them give, or have any kind of a problem man.
You should be just fine.
The only thing you might have to worry about, if you get spindles and crank your torsions, is your torsions starting to sag from serious offroading. But i've only seen that once. My trucks stock, and i've had the torsions cranked for 2 years now, completely. I've been offroad heavily every day for almost a year now and they aren't sagging yet.

 

hey im in his sig now!!

 

k, i wanted to know all this before i had them do it because i wanted to give them a heads up on what they had to do to make the install smooth, so they dont take like 10 hours installing them and i dont have a HUGE labor fee

 

if it takes a shop 10 hours to install lift spindles you better either 1) tell them that's it's easy and you aren't gonna pay for more then 4 hours. I've seen novices do it in 8 in their garage. 2) take it to another shop man.

 

i was exaggerating...he said 3 for 225$

 

ah that aint bad man, Well hey post pictures of the new spindles / lift when it's done!

 

of course

 

Why don't you just install them yourself and save the money. You'll learn a lot in the process. I've done 5 lifts now on Rangers alone and can knock them out in 3 hours each no sweat. Practice makes perfect. If you do have some shop install it, don't worry about it because they'll do everything to make it work right (and if they don't then you don't pay until it's finished). It's not that hard, everyone has to start doing it sometime, I just figure sooner rather than later.

As for the bickering, all of you guys settle down. Yes he should search more, but you don't have to automatically flame him, just ask him nicely. I don't want this turning into another torsion bar thread, it'll just lead to harsh relationships down the line. Seems like EVERYONE including myself on here needs to step back and smell the roses and stop picking fights so much. Just my $0.02.

 

I think he wants the reliability of a shop install. Sure, it costs money, but they hafta do it right or fix it(well, that's what we think).

Aaron

 

Well, I'll add something I haven't up to now about the spindles.

There really isn't anyway to win so far on the steering stops.

1. If you leave the stock ones on, you have problems.

2. My homemade ones were ineffective and actually CAUSED problems during flex of the suspension.

3. At full lock, you still have the problem of the caliper hitting the a-arm. DO NOT DO ROUGH TERRAIN AT FULL LOCK. You have to back up just a bit.

4. So far I haven't found any way to keep the FULL original turning radius due to brake clearance problems. However, when you back off just a bit, that goes away and you're CLOSE to original.

 

Same here John when I had mine on, you can never acheive stock cornering when you lift or modify the suspension. It's easy to do (the lift itself), I'm not a shop and I'm not a certified mechanic either, and the lifts that I put on have been reliable back to the day I did it.

 

Thanks

 

Anytime, that's what we're here for.

 

Yes, I'm not a desert jumper, but I bang the heck out of these Doetsch spindles with 15x8's on them with 3.25" backspacing, 35" tires and what not because I'm 2WD offroad and that means sometimes you hit things harder, lol. They seem to be plenty strong.

I'm REALLY not trying to be trouble -- and the point about searching is valid. HOWEVER, spindles have been mentioned and discussed in so many threads going back over such a time period that it's difficult to research easily and get EVERYTHING that's here lol.

I've run into several things like that on different message boards. It sometimes seems that it's hard to find just the right keywords to narrow down the results on some topics.

 

Somone needs to do a spindle sticky.

 

Gotcha covered Cass. I need someone in So Cal that needs their lift installed to come to me to get an install though, .

 

Post an add in the newpaper

 

drive to seattle and do mine..haha...id throw beer in even though im 18...TA HA