is this legal? probably not
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PROCHOICE!!!!!!! i da know, obama has so much **** against him, that and i don't live in that country... doesn't look bad to me...
i hear ya, that would be my biggest fear!
i hear ya, that would be my biggest fear!
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i think i read somewhere that the 6" lip at the bottom is there so that nothing fall out and becomes a hazzard to the other vehicles around you. someone posted a vette saying that the windsheild is gonna support the weight of the car... if you roll a vette just daily driving. you've got some issues and i'm talking kelsey grammer issues (rolled viper kind).
i you really want half doors or the likes, buy a jeep or make custom ones.
i you really want half doors or the likes, buy a jeep or make custom ones.
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****, he's not gonna be making them out of solid 1" bar stock, he doesn't NEED a stick welder. Sure TIGs make nice strong welds but a MIG will male MORE than strong enough welds for tube doors. Entire buggies, link pockets and brackets on axles and frames are all held together using MIG welders.
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seeing as it sounds like he is going to need to rent, beg, borrow, or steal a welder anyway - I don't see why he wouldn't tig or stick it. Either tig or stick offer you a lot more control over the penetration of your weld than mig. Plus, I'm figuring he is probably going to be dealing with portable units, and there are a ton of little migs out there that you can cart around and plug into a wall outlet that simply don't have the juice to get down good and deep into thick walled pipe (especially at the hands of someone who doesn't do much welding. It's pretty easy to lay a mig bead down that looks good even if it didn't go very deep - if your tig weld isn't deep enough it'll look off, and if your stick bead isn't deep enough it'll just be a sloppy mess). IMO, get a tig or a stick and don't worry about your welds cracking. If you have access to a big hardwired mig unit or at least something plugged into 220, go for it with the mig...but if he had that access I'm guessing he wouldn't have asked what kind of welder to use.
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seeing as it sounds like he is going to need to rent, beg, borrow, or steal a welder anyway - I don't see why he wouldn't tig or stick it. Either tig or stick offer you a lot more control over the penetration of your weld than mig. Plus, I'm figuring he is probably going to be dealing with portable units, and there are a ton of little migs out there that you can cart around and plug into a wall outlet that simply don't have the juice to get down good and deep into thick walled pipe (especially at the hands of someone who doesn't do much welding. It's pretty easy to lay a mig bead down that looks good even if it didn't go very deep - if your tig weld isn't deep enough it'll look off, and if your stick bead isn't deep enough it'll just be a sloppy mess). IMO, get a tig or a stick and don't worry about your welds cracking. If you have access to a big hardwired mig unit or at least something plugged into 220, go for it with the mig...but if he had that access I'm guessing he wouldn't have asked what kind of welder to use.
if you weld this thing up and you can't bend or break it with some force in your hands, (while it's off the truck) by means of dropping it on the corner or something, it will be fine...
i've made tonnes of structural items using a 120 mig, i think the one i used was a miller... but i've also had things epicly fail using a 120 lincoln... it depends on the brand and quality... check the specs of the welder, don't use something that is below spec for your material...
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i agree with matt... as long as you get a welder rated for the metal you are welding (which you should be doing with a mig, tig or stick) it's going to be just fine, most mig welders that run on 120 will do 3/8" wall... you can rent them from places like home depot... the one i borrowed when i used to work there was strong... just turn your wire speed down and your heat up...
if you weld this thing up and you can't bend or break it with some force in your hands, (while it's off the truck) by means of dropping it on the corner or something, it will be fine...
i've made tonnes of structural items using a 120 mig, i think the one i used was a miller... but i've also had things epicly fail using a 120 lincoln... it depends on the brand and quality... check the specs of the welder, don't use something that is below spec for your material...
if you weld this thing up and you can't bend or break it with some force in your hands, (while it's off the truck) by means of dropping it on the corner or something, it will be fine...
i've made tonnes of structural items using a 120 mig, i think the one i used was a miller... but i've also had things epicly fail using a 120 lincoln... it depends on the brand and quality... check the specs of the welder, don't use something that is below spec for your material...
For my money, if I were building something I was hoping would keep me in my truck (and other things out) and provide some structural support in the event of a crash or roll, I'd go with TIG. Rent 6' of extra pipe, cut it into 4" lengths and pactice welding them into 90* elbows. You have complete control over how much purchase your weld gets in each object you are welding (indipendantly from one another, which is nice if you want to do something with a couple different thicknesses), and when you're done with a good tig weld on a tick pipe, the weld will be the last thing to break instead of the first. Roll the door on a rock, and you can bet it will bend instead of breaking at the weld and sending pipe ends jutting into the cab.
Just my $.02 - I love my little miller MIG and use it just about every week. I used it to make the mag lite mount for you truck, just personally I wouldn't use it to make my doors.
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I love people that are like "oh you gotta do it one way or its wrong"
All I'm saying is my whole truck was held together with a MIG welder, and lots of people I wheel with use MIGs. I beat the living **** out of it and nothing broke, except the trac bar bracket and I know that was a ****ty weld.. after I fixed it I never had another issue.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO WELD YOU, NOTHING IS GONNA HOLD TOGETHER! plain and simple, if you can MIG it'll hold. again, they're JUST tube doors, nothing structural.. hell he could oxy torch weld it.
All I'm saying is my whole truck was held together with a MIG welder, and lots of people I wheel with use MIGs. I beat the living **** out of it and nothing broke, except the trac bar bracket and I know that was a ****ty weld.. after I fixed it I never had another issue.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO WELD YOU, NOTHING IS GONNA HOLD TOGETHER! plain and simple, if you can MIG it'll hold. again, they're JUST tube doors, nothing structural.. hell he could oxy torch weld it.
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I love people that are like "oh you gotta do it one way or its wrong"
All I'm saying is my whole truck was held together with a MIG welder, and lots of people I wheel with use MIGs. I beat the living **** out of it and nothing broke, except the trac bar bracket and I know that was a ****ty weld.. after I fixed it I never had another issue.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO WELD YOU, NOTHING IS GONNA HOLD TOGETHER! plain and simple, if you can MIG it'll hold. again, they're JUST tube doors, nothing structural.. hell he could oxy torch weld it.
All I'm saying is my whole truck was held together with a MIG welder, and lots of people I wheel with use MIGs. I beat the living **** out of it and nothing broke, except the trac bar bracket and I know that was a ****ty weld.. after I fixed it I never had another issue.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO WELD YOU, NOTHING IS GONNA HOLD TOGETHER! plain and simple, if you can MIG it'll hold. again, they're JUST tube doors, nothing structural.. hell he could oxy torch weld it.
I get that you think MIG will be fine...and sure it probably will be as long as he doesn't wrench the snot out of it rolling or something - but if he has to go out and get something anyway why not get a TIG and bury some nice deep welds in there? I'm not trying to pick a fight here, I'm asking seriously - if you had a choice between MIG or TIG on fairly thick walled material, and you had equal access to either welder, why WOULDN"T you choose the TIG?
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yea so am I.. and there is nothing wrong with MIG welding. you must not know what you're doing.
sure if I had a **** load of money I would LOVEE to have a fancy water cooled TIG welder, but I don't. and I KNOW a MIG welder is more than sufficient.. and unless you completely suck at welding it WILL be more than strong enough for anything he'll be doing.
sure if I had a **** load of money I would LOVEE to have a fancy water cooled TIG welder, but I don't. and I KNOW a MIG welder is more than sufficient.. and unless you completely suck at welding it WILL be more than strong enough for anything he'll be doing.
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yea so am I.. and there is nothing wrong with MIG welding. you must not know what you're doing.
sure if I had a **** load of money I would LOVEE to have a fancy water cooled TIG welder, but I don't. and I KNOW a MIG welder is more than sufficient.. and unless you completely suck at welding it WILL be more than strong enough for anything he'll be doing.
sure if I had a **** load of money I would LOVEE to have a fancy water cooled TIG welder, but I don't. and I KNOW a MIG welder is more than sufficient.. and unless you completely suck at welding it WILL be more than strong enough for anything he'll be doing.
Edit: Conversation actually reminded me I need to buy some nozzles for my little miller MIG, which got me onto their site. Their 1 phase MIGs are advertised for up to "light fabrication" (their 3 phase machines are advertised for "fabrication"). Their smallest TIG machine, also a little portable unit, is advertised for "automotive" and "4X4/offroad" fabricating. You should probably e-mail them to let them know that they forgot to include those things on the list of what their small MIG can do.
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yea so am I.. and there is nothing wrong with MIG welding. you must not know what you're doing.
sure if I had a **** load of money I would LOVEE to have a fancy water cooled TIG welder, but I don't. and I KNOW a MIG welder is more than sufficient.. and unless you completely suck at welding it WILL be more than strong enough for anything he'll be doing.
sure if I had a **** load of money I would LOVEE to have a fancy water cooled TIG welder, but I don't. and I KNOW a MIG welder is more than sufficient.. and unless you completely suck at welding it WILL be more than strong enough for anything he'll be doing.
Look man, THIS GUY NEEDS TO RENT A MACHINE EITHER WAY. We're not talking about your personal case here, he has equal access to a MIG or a TIG - and a TIG produces a superior quality weld. Honestly what are you arguing about? If you came down on the MIG produces a better weld side of the fence I'd get it - but you seem to agree that TIG produces a better weld. It isn't going to cost this guy more money to TIG his doors. It will take him an extra 30mins to learn the TIG vs. the MIG, and when he is done he will have knowledge of a much more versitile welding technique. A big MIG can lay a deep weld down as good as anything, but the little portable 1 phase units we are talking about only penetrate so deep.
Edit: Conversation actually reminded me I need to buy some nozzles for my little miller MIG, which got me onto their site. Their 1 phase MIGs are advertised for up to "light fabrication" (their 3 phase machines are advertised for "fabrication"). Their smallest TIG machine, also a little portable unit, is advertised for "automotive" and "4X4/offroad" fabricating. You should probably e-mail them to let them know that they forgot to include those things on the list of what their small MIG can do.
Edit: Conversation actually reminded me I need to buy some nozzles for my little miller MIG, which got me onto their site. Their 1 phase MIGs are advertised for up to "light fabrication" (their 3 phase machines are advertised for "fabrication"). Their smallest TIG machine, also a little portable unit, is advertised for "automotive" and "4X4/offroad" fabricating. You should probably e-mail them to let them know that they forgot to include those things on the list of what their small MIG can do.