Why is it?
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Why is it?
Why does everyone put down Indipendent suspension or IRS?
Everyone says solid axle is the best but I have a hard time thinking it is.
Wouldn't a Indepindent suspension ranger front and rear be better then a strait axle front and rear?
This is what I think:
With indipendent you get more ground clearance, the drive shaft should be higher. Smoother ride, it should articulate (sp?) more.
Only con I can think off is fast off pace driving. Which would make it want to lean more in the corners. but that could be solved with a sway bar.
Opinions please
Everyone says solid axle is the best but I have a hard time thinking it is.
Wouldn't a Indepindent suspension ranger front and rear be better then a strait axle front and rear?
This is what I think:
With indipendent you get more ground clearance, the drive shaft should be higher. Smoother ride, it should articulate (sp?) more.
Only con I can think off is fast off pace driving. Which would make it want to lean more in the corners. but that could be solved with a sway bar.
Opinions please
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haha its funny because basically you are 100% backwards wrong.
First off, I don't understand how the hell you think it is going to have more articulation.
Also, more ground clearance? Why? It should be about the same exact height as a solid axle i believe.
On top of that. The solid axle should be much more protected than IFS/IRS. Higher driveshaft? Umm no, they should be about the same, altho solid axles you have choices such as high pinion/low pinion.
And then, you think that maybe solid axle may be better in high speed off pace driving? i'm going to guess you mean like all the desert racing guys do. Dont you realize they all have IFS in the front? IFS allows each side to operate independantly. On a solid axle if your left side suspension dipped down a foot, the right side would have a reaction. On IFS, they aren't linked nearly as much.
and IRS? For the rear? I just think people dont do it because it is stupid and doesn't sound like a good idea.
First off, I don't understand how the hell you think it is going to have more articulation.
Also, more ground clearance? Why? It should be about the same exact height as a solid axle i believe.
On top of that. The solid axle should be much more protected than IFS/IRS. Higher driveshaft? Umm no, they should be about the same, altho solid axles you have choices such as high pinion/low pinion.
And then, you think that maybe solid axle may be better in high speed off pace driving? i'm going to guess you mean like all the desert racing guys do. Dont you realize they all have IFS in the front? IFS allows each side to operate independantly. On a solid axle if your left side suspension dipped down a foot, the right side would have a reaction. On IFS, they aren't linked nearly as much.
and IRS? For the rear? I just think people dont do it because it is stupid and doesn't sound like a good idea.
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I knew IRS ment rear I wasnt sure what front was thanks for the info.
I look at it this way. I am bringing my Quad knowledge over here so I may be completly wrong.
Anyways look at my pics. Look how much lower a solid axle would be. Now alot depends on angle on the a arms of the I.S. set up. But you should be able to get the diff higher on a IS set up.
I look at it this way. I am bringing my Quad knowledge over here so I may be completly wrong.
Anyways look at my pics. Look how much lower a solid axle would be. Now alot depends on angle on the a arms of the I.S. set up. But you should be able to get the diff higher on a IS set up.
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Originally Posted by Red_Ak_Ranger
And then, you think that maybe solid axle may be better in high speed off pace driving? i'm going to guess you mean like all the desert racing guys do. Dont you realize they all have IFS in the front? IFS allows each side to operate independantly. On a solid axle if your left side suspension dipped down a foot, the right side would have a reaction. On IFS, they aren't linked nearly as much.
and IRS? For the rear? I just think people dont do it because it is stupid and doesn't sound like a good idea.
and IRS? For the rear? I just think people dont do it because it is stupid and doesn't sound like a good idea.
I think you missed understood me. I didn't mean strait axle in the front would be good for racing.
IFS for the front and solid axle for the rear is great race set-up
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before I leave for the day, and the bashers start going nuts let me say this.
This is true for quads! IRS = High clearance, but more body roll. And is better offroad. But quad only weighs 700lbs at most and is not nearly as big.
So it may not be able to adapt to truck likings.
just a idea.
This is true for quads! IRS = High clearance, but more body roll. And is better offroad. But quad only weighs 700lbs at most and is not nearly as big.
So it may not be able to adapt to truck likings.
just a idea.
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zabeard gets this one again... IFS is so expensive to have the "higher" set-up offering better articulation and more clearance that you speak of with the quads... with the weight/width of full size vehicles its soo much harder to generate a quality system, for sure not anywhere near the price of an SAS system.. that is why (depending on the off-roading you do) most ppl on here use the SAS because they tend to stand on the rocks and in the mud
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yes swamper you are right. they have no articulation.
What gave me a good idea was I saw some prototype IRS and IFS trucks. All new frames and what not.
Guess what it comes down to. If you want a GREAT offroading IRS/IFS truck your going to need lots and lots of mula to make it great.
IMO IRS/IFS would be better for the higher ground clearance, if built right would keep all the drive train higher as well. But liek others stated would take alot of MULA.
I understand that IFS on the ranger sucks. But if you build a new front end it could be just as good if not better then a strait axle. At least thatis my thoughts
What gave me a good idea was I saw some prototype IRS and IFS trucks. All new frames and what not.
Guess what it comes down to. If you want a GREAT offroading IRS/IFS truck your going to need lots and lots of mula to make it great.
IMO IRS/IFS would be better for the higher ground clearance, if built right would keep all the drive train higher as well. But liek others stated would take alot of MULA.
I understand that IFS on the ranger sucks. But if you build a new front end it could be just as good if not better then a strait axle. At least thatis my thoughts
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Originally Posted by firefighterjosh
ok here is what made me think of it. Here is 2 pics of the same quad. One with IRS and one with a strait axle. The IRS raised it up a hair which makes more ground clearance.
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actually i think it is known that the IFS on a ranger is actually pretty dang strong stock.
look at the DBR truck for instance. its just all on how you wheel and what type of setup you want.
I didnt want something that wore balljoints left and right. I also wanted to run big tires on a DD.
look at the DBR truck for instance. its just all on how you wheel and what type of setup you want.
I didnt want something that wore balljoints left and right. I also wanted to run big tires on a DD.