Rant- ranger vs F150
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Rant- ranger vs F150
I was thinking about adding another truck. One of my rangers turned 190,000 miles (2002). I don't want to get rid of it. Its becoming an experiment on how long it will last while getting worked hard.
Here's the rant.
Before rebates this is what I am finding:
2009 f150 single cab v8 $21,000
2009 Ranger extended cab 4.0 $23,0000
Does someone care to explain this to me? At least I know why there are so many people swapping to f-150's. Pretty rediculous imo.
Here's the rant.
Before rebates this is what I am finding:
2009 f150 single cab v8 $21,000
2009 Ranger extended cab 4.0 $23,0000
Does someone care to explain this to me? At least I know why there are so many people swapping to f-150's. Pretty rediculous imo.
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The f150 was base model with rubber floors and no power windows etc. It was single cab. at $21
The ranger at $23 did have power windows but that was a $500 option. It has an extended cab.
The only real comparison I found was a long bed single cab 4.0 ranger with rubber floors and no power windows. it was still higher than the $21 f-150.
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Yep. I think it's pretty ridiculous too. My local stealership only stocks 2 or 3 4x4 rangers. The rest are the Sport model 2wds. They have 3 rows of F-150s, ranging from the standard cab long bed work trucks to the fully loaded Platinum editions. If Ford were smart they would redesign the ranger as it's a good little truck. I see quite a few 08-09 rangers running around here.
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nope. Maybe if you compare the 4 cyl ranger with a v8 f150. I need the v6 Ranger for towing. The v6 ranger is not cheaper than an f-150.
The f150 was base model with rubber floors and no power windows etc. It was single cab. at $21
The ranger at $23 did have power windows but that was a $500 option. It has an extended cab.
The only real comparison I found was a long bed single cab 4.0 ranger with rubber floors and no power windows. it was still higher than the $21 f-150.
The f150 was base model with rubber floors and no power windows etc. It was single cab. at $21
The ranger at $23 did have power windows but that was a $500 option. It has an extended cab.
The only real comparison I found was a long bed single cab 4.0 ranger with rubber floors and no power windows. it was still higher than the $21 f-150.
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Add the v6 into the equation. The cheapest v6 ranger is not cheaper than the cheapest v8 f150.
i'm gonna build one real quick so i don't eat my words. lol
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yeah i get what youre saying too. i think they are just trying to move the F-150's off the lot. it seems to be working, they cant keep them on the ford lot by me, hell they cant even keep the rangers on the lot.
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The last time I called Autozone for the front wheel hubs for my truck, they told me they were $345 per side. My friend's diesel EXCURSION 4x4 was like $250-$300. It's just plain ridiculous!
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if you are towing, consider a diesel, and i dont really think you need something brand-spankin-new from a dealership. diesels have much more torque, last 3x or mor longer than a gas rig, have much more overall power, and did i say last long?
what would be cool is if they started making gen 3's again lol
what would be cool is if they started making gen 3's again lol
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I just built 3 trucks on the website, going with the cheapest options. I did two rangers for the only two cab configurations available on a 4.0.
All are automatic with no power (windows, etc) and rubber floor.
Ranger single cab long bed 4.0 $21,475
Ranger Extended cab 4.0 $22,770
F150 single cab 4.6L v8 6-1/2ft bed $21,790
All are automatic with no power (windows, etc) and rubber floor.
Ranger single cab long bed 4.0 $21,475
Ranger Extended cab 4.0 $22,770
F150 single cab 4.6L v8 6-1/2ft bed $21,790
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he doesn't really haul enough weight to warrant paying twice as much for a diesel.
granted a diesel is nice, more power, lasts longer, better fuel mileage, better fuel mileage while hauling... and they sound cool
but oil changes cost upwards of 3-4 times what they do on a gas motor, you gotta do the fuel filters more often, when stuff breaks it does cost more to fix.
You could get a real nice 99-00 7.3 power stroke for 10-12k in the 150,000 mile range. Old 12v 5.9 cummins are probably the most reliable out there and get the best fuel mileage.
granted a diesel is nice, more power, lasts longer, better fuel mileage, better fuel mileage while hauling... and they sound cool
but oil changes cost upwards of 3-4 times what they do on a gas motor, you gotta do the fuel filters more often, when stuff breaks it does cost more to fix.
You could get a real nice 99-00 7.3 power stroke for 10-12k in the 150,000 mile range. Old 12v 5.9 cummins are probably the most reliable out there and get the best fuel mileage.
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the reality is I don;t want a big truck. The trailers are ten foot long. Everything is a lot more maneuverable on the back of a ranger vs a full size truck. We are snaking in and out of new home sites with the truck/trailer combo.
I bought one f-150 just so we'd have one truck for larger jobs. Its wasn;t about the tow capacity, it was about carrying 3 people comfy in the truck to get to the jobsite. The ranger can;t do that. We also have the occasional trip to haul full slabs to the showroom on a 16ft trailer. The one f150 does it fine. I don't need 2.
In the past I could get the rangers for $5000 or more off msrp. It may have been the same for f-150's. I never really checked. The price seemed 'reasonable' so i bought them and went about my business.
I think the good rebates are gone for a while:
cash for clunkers replaced the factory rebates and its out of reach for a bunch of us.
The mfgrs made the adjustments to put the factories in line with real world sales numbers. This lessens the need for the rebates.
I guess I'm pissed cause the good old days of getting a deal may be gone.
I bought a brand new 3.0 single cab 3.0 automatic edge(no power) in 2003 for $11,500. I bought a 2004 4.0 4x4 manual tranny edge (with electric windows) for around $18,500.
Now I have to pay (with rebates) $20,000 for the cheapest v6 ranger on the lot. maybe $19 if I'm lucky.
I bought one f-150 just so we'd have one truck for larger jobs. Its wasn;t about the tow capacity, it was about carrying 3 people comfy in the truck to get to the jobsite. The ranger can;t do that. We also have the occasional trip to haul full slabs to the showroom on a 16ft trailer. The one f150 does it fine. I don't need 2.
In the past I could get the rangers for $5000 or more off msrp. It may have been the same for f-150's. I never really checked. The price seemed 'reasonable' so i bought them and went about my business.
I think the good rebates are gone for a while:
cash for clunkers replaced the factory rebates and its out of reach for a bunch of us.
The mfgrs made the adjustments to put the factories in line with real world sales numbers. This lessens the need for the rebates.
I guess I'm pissed cause the good old days of getting a deal may be gone.
I bought a brand new 3.0 single cab 3.0 automatic edge(no power) in 2003 for $11,500. I bought a 2004 4.0 4x4 manual tranny edge (with electric windows) for around $18,500.
Now I have to pay (with rebates) $20,000 for the cheapest v6 ranger on the lot. maybe $19 if I'm lucky.
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he doesn't really haul enough weight to warrant paying twice as much for a diesel.
granted a diesel is nice, more power, lasts longer, better fuel mileage, better fuel mileage while hauling... and they sound cool
but oil changes cost upwards of 3-4 times what they do on a gas motor, you gotta do the fuel filters more often, when stuff breaks it does cost more to fix.
You could get a real nice 99-00 7.3 power stroke for 10-12k in the 150,000 mile range. Old 12v 5.9 cummins are probably the most reliable out there and get the best fuel mileage.
granted a diesel is nice, more power, lasts longer, better fuel mileage, better fuel mileage while hauling... and they sound cool
but oil changes cost upwards of 3-4 times what they do on a gas motor, you gotta do the fuel filters more often, when stuff breaks it does cost more to fix.
You could get a real nice 99-00 7.3 power stroke for 10-12k in the 150,000 mile range. Old 12v 5.9 cummins are probably the most reliable out there and get the best fuel mileage.
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sounds screwy to me...
But I understand the feeling Wayne. We got the 08 F150 XLT right before Thanksgiving, with 4.6L Crew Cab, loaded minus leather. After employee pricing, my $500 student discount, and the $5500 Texas/Oklahoma discount, we paid 21K or 22K for a 35K truck.
She wouldn't let me price or even look at Rangers lol.
But I understand the feeling Wayne. We got the 08 F150 XLT right before Thanksgiving, with 4.6L Crew Cab, loaded minus leather. After employee pricing, my $500 student discount, and the $5500 Texas/Oklahoma discount, we paid 21K or 22K for a 35K truck.
She wouldn't let me price or even look at Rangers lol.
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In all honesty, if Ford still offered a manual with the F150 4x4, I would have bought one of them instead. Since they didn't I had a choice to go up to the F250 (which is way to much truck for me) or down to the Ranger.
Now that I have my Ranger, I love it, and plan on keeping it till oil runs out.
Now that I have my Ranger, I love it, and plan on keeping it till oil runs out.
Last edited by crawford60; 08-05-2009 at 06:43 PM.