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Should I do it? body lift question

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Should I do it? body lift question

I just got back from next door, anyways the guy was asking me all these questions about my truck. I told him I was body lifting it this spring and I asked him and his bro and law if they could help since they have lifts, impacts etc. There both machanics and one of the guys said hes done alot of body lifts and knows what hes doing. Thing is these guys are kinda hicks and they said I don't even need to heat up my cab bolts and that they have an impact strong enough to just take them right out. Should I have them help me? Seems like they want to do it kind of ghetto or should i just do it myself. Everywhere I've read people have said that you always need to heat up the bushings first to break the loctite. Plus the guy said he doesn't even need instructions hes done them enough. Should I have them help me? or do it with my dad and my sisters boyfriend with hand tools so its not all red neck style? I want this done right and safe, not half ***. haha thanks
 
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You could let them do it. Havent done mine yet but I have read that the cab bolts snap easily if you dont heat them. Personaly I would do it myself for the know how and experienise.
 
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if they have done them before i would let them. i heated mine and used an impact wrench on them. when you are letting them do it make sure they do it the way you want to thats all.
 
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You could let them do it. Havent done mine yet but I have read that the cab bolts snap easily if you dont heat them. Personaly I would do it myself for the know how and experienise.
I would do it myself. If you don't trust them even a little bit, I wouldn't get them to do it.
 
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The bolts will come out easily if you have a nice impact, heat is just for use cheaper guys with the inexpensive impacts lol. You can do it yourself without air tools, it will just take a little longer.
 
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What's wrong with being a hick? Just because you don't have a full set of teeth doesn't mean you don't know how to turn wrenches.

There's a fellow up the road who is definetly a hick, but builds amazing engines and has for years. He consistently wins against high dollar teams just because of his sheer skill at making things go faster than you.
 
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Well he told me he had a crazy impact, the ones they use for nascar that type, and he said he wouldnt even need to heat them.. I mean I trust him but at the same time I don't want to break anything. I would be helping btw.

Haha I refered to him as kind of hickish because he seems to do everything like his way, and not the correct or safe way. Dunno just don't want **** broken. Tells me he beats his vehicles etc.. stuff like that.
 
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Jus watch him. It sounds like he knows wat he's doing. You definately don't need heat if you have a good enough impact. And there's really no way to F up a body lift. Jus make sure to stretch your brake lines and move all those other cables that you are supposed to move. But if you don't trust him, don't let him do it.
 
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The heat is for trucks like my 1993 Ranger that I Body lifted this past year. The bolts in the bed, the ones closest to the cab tend to rust pretty bad, I broke both of them when removing them. If your truck is newer 01+ you shouldnt have that problem.
 
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It seems to me, you know how you have to disconnect all that stuff under the hood first? Seems to me like he wouldn't do any of that, just lift the bed, jack the cab up and install. I dunno maybe I'm just being to cautious.. Hopefully he's not that dumb, haha he was telling me all these stories of how he took his 88 ranger through huge mud holes with just a bl and not getting stuck and 4x4's getting stuck in there etc, you know one of those type of guys.. seems like he lied about half the **** that came out of his mouth.. Thats why I kind of don't trust him.
 
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Originally Posted by Sea-Bass
The heat is for trucks like my 1993 Ranger that I Body lifted this past year. The bolts in the bed, the ones closest to the cab tend to rust pretty bad, I broke both of them when removing them. If your truck is newer 01+ you shouldnt have that problem.
Its also to melt the loc-tite on the cab bolts. My 04 needed heat on those so I could get them out.
 
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Originally Posted by JRacer
Jus watch him. It sounds like he knows wat he's doing. You definately don't need heat if you have a good enough impact. And there's really no way to F up a body lift. Jus make sure to stretch your brake lines and move all those other cables that you are supposed to move. But if you don't trust him, don't let him do it.
I have to disagree, If the bolt is rusted, it doesn't matter if you have the best impact gun in the world, if you put enough force on it with the lock tite, it is going to break. Lock-tite is meant to be permanent until you apply heat, not force.
 
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Its also to melt the loc-tite on the cab bolts. My 04 needed heat on those so I could get them out.
You are correct, forgot about that.
 
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Originally Posted by Sea-Bass
The heat is for trucks like my 1993 Ranger that I Body lifted this past year. The bolts in the bed, the ones closest to the cab tend to rust pretty bad, I broke both of them when removing them. If your truck is newer 01+ you shouldnt have that problem.
actually the heat is for the newer ones that have the most lock tight but in your case they were just rusted out

it is really easy to do a BL and you cant really F it up so i would just have your nieghbors do it and you help that ay you can use their tools so it will go by quicker
after doing a body lift and figuring it out i could do it in like 6 hours by myself so they prob know what they are doing and if you dont like how they are doing it just tell em
 
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have them help you but if they break anything they have to pay for the part to fix it...easy as that
 
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Originally Posted by chainfire
I have to disagree, If the bolt is rusted, it doesn't matter if you have the best impact gun in the world, if you put enough force on it with the lock tite, it is going to break. Lock-tite is meant to be permanent until you apply heat, not force.
Thats what I was thinking, I have no idea if my bolts are rusted though.. I don't know what to do.. haha I mean I can always borrow there tools. I kind of want to do it myself though honestly. all I need is a bigger breaker bar. I just don't want them ruining something... even though theyd pay for it.. arghhhh
 
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There are ways to f-it up don't go into thinking you can't. You can jack it to high and have the body slide off (never heard it happening but I bet its possible), you can leave the AC lines in danger of being cut, break brake lines, etc, etc. Just take your time and you'll be fine.
 
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he told me he was going to put hooks in all the 4 corners of the bed and lift it up with like a rope type thing he has in his garage. Basically the same technique you would use to lift a motor out of a car etc etc, but the motor is the bed in my case.
 
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well ya you can f it up but its pretty hard the only things that you could do is jack up the cab on the rocker panel and dent that up they not keep an eye on all lines and hoses so they dont break or kink
and the ac line can and will get cut if not relocated

just follow the directions and youll be fine
 
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Originally Posted by kyle12201
he told me he was going to put hooks in all the 4 corners of the bed and lift it up with like a rope type thing he has in his garage. Basically the same technique you would use to lift a motor out of a car etc etc, but the motor is the bed in my case.
I was going to do that with mine but I just lifted it off instead. Make sure to disconnect the wiring harness from the bed in the very back if you do take it all the way off.
 
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Originally Posted by 01 ranger 4x4
well ya you can f it up but its pretty hard the only things that you could do is jack up the cab on the rocker panel and dent that up they not keep an eye on all lines and hoses so they dont break or kink
and the ac line can and will get cut if not relocated

just follow the directions and youll be fine
Yeah I mentioned that to him he said he knew not to jack it up, so I guess I'm good there. I'm going to do all the prep work myself the night befor and bring it over to him the next day.

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I was going to do that with mine but I just lifted it off instead. Make sure to disconnect the wiring harness from the bed in the very back if you do take it all the way off.
to what? the tails?
 
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Yeah tails, license plate lights, trailer harness, etc.
 
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Alright cool I thought so, I feel a bit more comfortable with them doing it now. It is required to disconnect the things under the hood correct? Well the things that the instructions mention?
 
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I did, rather be safe than sorry.
 
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I did, rather be safe than sorry.
Yeah I 100% doubt they would even do that. I think I'm just going to play this one safe and do it myself. Maybe borrow his tools if needed.
 

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