what do you think of the new svt raptor
#51
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...fCarsQ5fTrucks
Oh wow buy it now for 42k, who'd of thunk that?
#52
I'm sure there is fine print on that sale somewhere.
And if I'm wrong about the markups then all well. I can at least admit when I"m wrong.
Last edited by whippersnapper02; 10-09-2009 at 10:00 PM.
#53
Dealers around here aren't doing that. Hes just making stuff up to hate on the truck.
Ford : F-150:eBay Motors (item 130335728324 end time Oct-17-09 0730 PDT)
Oh wow buy it now for 42k, who'd of thunk that?
Ford : F-150:eBay Motors (item 130335728324 end time Oct-17-09 0730 PDT)
Oh wow buy it now for 42k, who'd of thunk that?
#54
Yes because I do that. WOW. You know me so well. Stop and think for a second. Everyone is going to want this truck. There are people that have the money to pay top dollar for the truck so guess what? Markup. Just like the Challenger. Oh you saw them for sale for 38? Did you go in and run the numbers?
I'm sure there is fine print on that sale somewhere.
I'm sure there is fine print on that sale somewhere.
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#57
I love the truck, the thing that makes it for me are the electronics, the revamped, abs control, hill decent, throttle remap and different shift points all at the touch of a button. and for 39K its a great price for what you get, sure you could take a base model 2009 XLT SuperCab Styleside 6-1/2 ft Box 5.4L 3V EFI V8 FFV Engine Electronic 6-Speed Automatic Transmission with Tow/Haul Mode 4X4 3.73 Limited Slip Axle Ratio $34,570 and build it up but for 4k more you get a ton of interior upgrades the electronics and the suspension, tires and wheels, fenders, skid plates gears, locker, ect all ready to go from the factory.
in addition to that there is 16 inches of wheel travel on this truck stock, i'm not 100% sure of what the front can do though...
#58
There are two black Raptors for sale at different dealers in Lexington, neither has an additional markup or addendum.
FYI the Mustang Cobra's used to have markups on them at the dealer I worked at in 04, yet nobody ever paid that, or even retail.
It isn't really a fair comparison to say that it is overpriced because of dealer markups, and use other trucks actual purchase prices as comparisons. In this market (or any really?) paying MSRP is stupid.
Anyway, I think the raptor is awesome. This is a type of truck that no other manufacturer puts off the assembly line which makes it unique in itself. Comparing new to new, you could not build a truck like that for cheaper. I believe the track is actually 7" wider (lots of mixed specs out there), the truck has unique wider fenders, rear axle, stronger frame, tuned shocks/springs, several electronic options, etc all from the factory and warrantied. You can pick it up from the dealer and drive it straight out to the sand at 100mph. There is also the fact that it can still be used as a truck, and doesn't handle on the road like an average built pre-runner truck. Read/watch any of the several reviews out there about it.
It is not just another F150, although the F150 is America's best selling vehicle for some 27+ years, no?
The truck doesn't make sense to someone who wouldn't use what it has to offer. Sure a ton of them will be driven by dudebros who will put big wheels on it and drive it to the mall. So what? Ford went out to do something different and unique and they did a great job with it.
FYI the Mustang Cobra's used to have markups on them at the dealer I worked at in 04, yet nobody ever paid that, or even retail.
It isn't really a fair comparison to say that it is overpriced because of dealer markups, and use other trucks actual purchase prices as comparisons. In this market (or any really?) paying MSRP is stupid.
Anyway, I think the raptor is awesome. This is a type of truck that no other manufacturer puts off the assembly line which makes it unique in itself. Comparing new to new, you could not build a truck like that for cheaper. I believe the track is actually 7" wider (lots of mixed specs out there), the truck has unique wider fenders, rear axle, stronger frame, tuned shocks/springs, several electronic options, etc all from the factory and warrantied. You can pick it up from the dealer and drive it straight out to the sand at 100mph. There is also the fact that it can still be used as a truck, and doesn't handle on the road like an average built pre-runner truck. Read/watch any of the several reviews out there about it.
It is not just another F150, although the F150 is America's best selling vehicle for some 27+ years, no?
The truck doesn't make sense to someone who wouldn't use what it has to offer. Sure a ton of them will be driven by dudebros who will put big wheels on it and drive it to the mall. So what? Ford went out to do something different and unique and they did a great job with it.
#59
it's the best selling truck world wide 31 years running, and according to wiki it's best selling vehicle in north america 23 years, but i remember a few years ago it was 27 years running best selling vehicle worldwide...
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#62
uh, yes they are, you can't buy them aftermarket... fox is only supplying these to the raptors... the wheel base is also 8 inches wider than a stock f-150
#63
I swear some of you would cream your pants if Ford took a **** on a plate and slapped a SVT sticker on it.
Last edited by whippersnapper02; 10-10-2009 at 12:41 PM.
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#66
Technically I don't hate Ford. My truck is just a POS. Why do I drive it? When I bought it I didn't make too much and this truck happened to be in my price range. I actually bought it at a Toyota dealer. Was I looking for a Ford? Obviously not. Now I make good money and I'm saving for a down on something new or newer. Like I said I don't hate Ford I just wouldn't really drive another one of their vehicles. Who knows though since there is a nice Superduty for sale by my house that I might call about. I was kind of discouraged though since my buddy that worked at Ford was telling me stories about them.
#67
Technically I don't hate Ford. My truck is just a POS. Why do I drive it? When I bought it I didn't make too much and this truck happened to be in my price range. I actually bought it at a Toyota dealer. Was I looking for a Ford? Obviously not. Now I make good money and I'm saving for a down on something new or newer. Like I said I don't hate Ford I just wouldn't really drive another one of their vehicles. Who knows though since there is a nice Superduty for sale by my house that I might call about. I was kind of discouraged though since my buddy that worked at Ford was telling me stories about them.
#68
Technically I don't hate Ford. My truck is just a POS. Why do I drive it? When I bought it I didn't make too much and this truck happened to be in my price range. I actually bought it at a Toyota dealer. Was I looking for a Ford? Obviously not. Now I make good money and I'm saving for a down on something new or newer. Like I said I don't hate Ford I just wouldn't really drive another one of their vehicles. Who knows though since there is a nice Superduty for sale by my house that I might call about. I was kind of discouraged though since my buddy that worked at Ford was telling me stories about them.
#69
You want to hear a story about Toyota? We have 38 brand new fully loaded Sequoias that Toyota messed up on with the rear hatch and they leak. They can't sell them so we're going to part them out and most likely crush them. Also, when Toyota wasn't selling many 07's and 08's, they took hundreds of them, ReVin'd them and sold them as new models.
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#73
im gonig to say it again. The states, SO much cheaper for everything, id gladly buy a raptor for $40,000 the 09 f-150 platinum is almost 60 grand here. hell, when i got my 08, a brand new Fx4 LII was about $37,000. why? no idea, exact same truck the states has, dollar is almost par again. As far as the Raptor goes, i dont even think they are available in canada, i checked the ford.ca site and nothing about it, never seen one advertised or anything here. If anyone knows they are coming to canada, let me know, I'd love to see their price here haha
edit: adding the taco TRD, over $40,000
edit: adding the taco TRD, over $40,000
#74
who the hell cares if the truck is over hyped? that means nothing at all, if you like to have something thats different and have the money then you will buy one, the only people complaining are the ones who cant afford it and love to complain about everything "cough cough whippersnapper cough"
its not JUST an F-150
its not JUST an F-150
#75
The raptor is an SVT. its not meant for the practical buyer niether was the lightning, niether is anything out of ford special vehicle team. Anything with an SVT badge is meant for people like us, people who take pride in their cars/trucks, people who want the best of the best for no real reason other than wanting it. Arguably the SVT focus or the mustang is a little more for the DD but a regular person who wants a regular mustang or a regular commuter focus has no want/need for an SVT.
personally i love the thing, but with ford pricing where it is, I would rather buy a platinum F 150 as a DD. if im spending over 38,000 for a truck im not offroading it anyway, id rather bump it up 4000 and get a platinum with a screw cab.
personally i love the thing, but with ford pricing where it is, I would rather buy a platinum F 150 as a DD. if im spending over 38,000 for a truck im not offroading it anyway, id rather bump it up 4000 and get a platinum with a screw cab.