level one vs level two
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level one vs level two
hey yall, im back, been in ft benning Ga for the last 3 months, yea iv been in the army for 2 1/2 yrs and i got to repeat basic training, awsome lol. but anyway my buddy just got a 2005 fx4 lvl 1 and he was just wondering whats the difference between the lvl 1 and lvl 2 as far as suspension and shocks and what not.
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Originally Posted by NHBubba
I can't confirm this, but the LII may come w/ stiffer torsen bars in addition to the upgraded shocks.
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Originally Posted by Red_Ak_Ranger
Manual tranny manual tcase in Kyles!
Actually I think the Level IIs sit a touch lower if you don't touch the torsion bars because of the added weight of the skid plates and all the options.
Level IIs come with special interiors. They are all 4.0 4x4 4 dr. Rangers. They've got a 31 spline 8.8" rear axle with a torsen limited slip differential. They've got bilstein shocks, and skid plates in the front, under the tcase, and the gas tank. They are all straight-side beds. They have darker gray flairs and valences, and come with special stainless steel towhooks. From 02-04 they were the J-hooks. Starting in 05 they are just stainless steel versions of the normal black loops. They come with 15x7" Alcoa forged wheels and 31x10.5x15 BFG A/T tires. They've got all power options (locks, windows, cruise, etc). They have special chrome shifters for manual transmissions with special shift *****. 2002 and 2003 year manual transmissions also got a manual transfer case with a shifter and **** to match the chrome gear selector. They also get cloth door inserts and special silver-faced gauges. All of them have rear sliding windows. The buckets also have special colored inserts, depending on the exterior color of the truck.
I think that's all, but I may have missed something.
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Probably because of the 31" tires.
the other big difference, atleast on the 06's is a rubber floor becomes an option on the lvl2
oh ya, and the lvl2 sits about 1inch higher than non fx lvl2's i cant comment of just a fx4, but when my truck was next to bri's 05 lvl2 his truck was about 1in higher
oh ya, and the lvl2 sits about 1inch higher than non fx lvl2's i cant comment of just a fx4, but when my truck was next to bri's 05 lvl2 his truck was about 1in higher
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Originally Posted by Morph
Probably because of the 31" tires.
In 2005~2006, the non-Level II 4-door Supercab gets 255/70R16s which are 30.1". Even these will only be 3/10" lower at the axle centerline.
Level II's have the same suspension (except the Bilsteins), so they are comparable in height to other 4x4 Supercab Rangers from the same era.
Last edited by V8 Level II; 03-29-2006 at 07:48 PM.
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Originally Posted by Gearhead61
Unless they swapped the rear ends, you don't. Check your axle tag. If it says R7 like NHBubba's then you do. If it doesnt, then you don't.
If it isn't a LII, then it didn't come from the factory with a Torsen or 31-spline axles.
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Could he not check the tag on the axle as well? Anyone remember the code for the 31-spline/torsen combo?
But yeah, I'd put this month's salary on it being a 28-spline..
I stand corrected..
The manual t-case was eliminated from the entire Ranger lineup in '04. Only '02 FX4's and '03 LII's had this option. And even then it was only available w/ the manual trans.
But yeah, I'd put this month's salary on it being a 28-spline..
Originally Posted by rwenzing
LII's have the highest rate #1 bars but so do the other optioned-up 4.0L 4x4 4-door Supercabs that I have seen. The bars and leaf springs are computer selected based on variables like wheelbase, engine, 2WD or 4WD, payload package, options, etc.
Originally Posted by Red_Ak_Ranger
Manual tranny manual tcase in Kyles!
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Originally Posted by NHBubba
Could he not check the tag on the axle as well? Anyone remember the code for the 31-spline/torsen combo?
N313L
4L10 88 3E15
and it had the lubrication tag:
75W140 SYNTH
OIL ONLY
Both tags are found only on Torsen equipped Rangers.
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Originally Posted by Gearhead61
Actually I think the Level IIs sit a touch lower if you don't touch the torsion bars because of the added weight of the skid plates and all the options.
Also the 2002 FX4 had the black background on the instrument panel. Picky, picky.