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Old 12-06-2012
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I have extended length ranchos with a torsion crank so when I lift the front of the truck up like with a floor jack for example the ifs droops until the UCAs rest on the frame rail, I'd rather if this didn't happen. I don't really wheel the truck at all, occasionally it goes on the beach but nothing crazy. Still I'd rather have limit straps on it.

Where did anyone with a similar set up mount their limit straps? I know the frame, but how/where, i haven't seen anything i really thought would be a good idea. I do have a welder and could weld the tab to the frame if needed. Pics would be helpful if possible
 
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I don't think you'd need them on a mildly lifted truck. The UCA's would only do that if you came off the ground. As long as your CV's are not at an extreme angle the occasional resting of UCA on the frame for a tire change or maintenance shouldn't be an issue.
 
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yeah I imagine you are correct. That's the attitude i've had towards it, i just try to minimize the time i have the suspension hanging.

my CV's are fine as far as angles so i'm not too worried about that.

basically its a kind of a pain to rotate tires because i have to jack the truck waaaay up to get the front wheels off the ground (almost to the limit of the floor jack). It seems like the less i have to lift the front up the better/safer because it will minimize the front to back angle and lessen the horizontal force on the base of the jack stands. so i was approaching the idea of limit straps from a safety/convenience standpoint rather than protecting the CVs
 
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That horizontal force is gonna be the same whether its an inch off the ground or a foot. Chock the wheels and you shouldn't have an issue.
I don't think the straps would help if your still torsion bar'd. if you had coils then yea, your springs could fall out and you would have some issues.
 
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Actually the horizontal force on the base of the jack stand increases the higher the front is lifted while the rear remains at the same height. But anyway I guess I'll probably leave it alone, was just looking to see if others with similar set ups did anything with limit straps. Thanks for the input
 
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Originally Posted by jeffw920
Hey,
I have extended length ranchos with a torsion crank so when I lift the front of the truck up like with a floor jack for example the ifs droops until the UCAs rest on the frame rail, I'd rather if this didn't happen.
If you have substituted longer than stock shocks, you do need limit straps. That's because the 98+ design used the shock itself as the rebound travel limiter. Going beyond the factory limit WILL cause the outer CVs to bind when the steering is turned to the stop and the suspension is at full rebound at the same time.

I used a 10" Beard/Redart limit strap and adjustable clevis with a custom bracket bolted to the frame. I have also seen another truck using the same combination of parts but with the clevis mounted through a hole in the lower control arm instead.





 
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I like that set up, I think ill go with those straps as well. Thanks for the picture, could you explain a little more what you mean by custom bracket? Was it just to make the adjustable clevis bolt up or was it to strengthen the area?
 

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I used a pair of bolt on brackets that I welded up from scrap. I originally did it that way because I didn't want to bother removing other parts and prepping the frame for welding. I will be revisiting the setup because I have a coilover conversion waiting to go on and it needs to have reinforcements welded to the shock towers.
 
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Very nice, thanks for the help rwenzing
 
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Bob, I'm doing the Superlift with a coilover conversion, do you still think I would limit straps?
 
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Probably.

IIRC, even with the Superlift, the shocks are still the rebound travel limiters. If the Superlift specified shocks are replaced by universal coilovers that allow more extension travel, then you'd need something in place to do that job. A common way to control rebound travel on a custom install is with limiter straps.
 
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