dual antennas
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Originally Posted by Redneckstone
I am no going to help you...you have a bull bar...shesh....
lol...acully from what i gather from a few people they have never had good luck with duals on a ranger because of how close they are. if you are having range problems try just running 1. just a thought
lol...acully from what i gather from a few people they have never had good luck with duals on a ranger because of how close they are. if you are having range problems try just running 1. just a thought
i'm runnin 2 dual firestik II's off of my rear bumper and i'm gettin 10-12 mile range on the highway and 6-7 city miles with my unmodified cobra 29 with no amplifier...
just tune them both at the same time and you'll be ok...
i also suggest that if they are spring mounted have someone pull back on them slightly to imitate their position as you are going down the road...
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Originally Posted by yumcheetos
um.....2 wont help.....
true, but they don't really hurt either!!!
granted it's more aesthetics, but if he gotta deal like mine off of e-bay, i payed for 2 that were brand new what you would normally pay for 1 brand new, and i got the $15 dollar springs for each one and the 18' co-phase 75ohm harness...
couldn't pass that up
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i had duel wilson 5000's on mine but the mounts kepted bending and the only place i found i liked to mount my radio is were my cup holders where then i realy didnt like it cause i didnt have cup holders
i never really cared for the fire sticks fiber glass snaps to easy but there cheap so there not a big deal to replace
i never really cared for the fire sticks fiber glass snaps to easy but there cheap so there not a big deal to replace
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Originally Posted by Sad_Savant
i'm runnin 2 dual firestik II's off of my rear bumper and i'm gettin 10-12 mile range on the highway and 6-7 city miles with my unmodified cobra 29 with no amplifier...
just tune them both at the same time and you'll be ok...
i also suggest that if they are spring mounted have someone pull back on them slightly to imitate their position as you are going down the road...
just tune them both at the same time and you'll be ok...
i also suggest that if they are spring mounted have someone pull back on them slightly to imitate their position as you are going down the road...
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Originally Posted by Redneckstone
I am no going to help you...you have a bull bar...shesh....
lol...acully from what i gather from a few people they have never had good luck with duals on a ranger because of how close they are. if you are having range problems try just running 1. just a thought
lol...acully from what i gather from a few people they have never had good luck with duals on a ranger because of how close they are. if you are having range problems try just running 1. just a thought
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On the BIG rigs... the reason why they have them mounted on either side of the vehicle is that having one would make their receive and transmit very directional....
To take full advantage of the co-phase design.... the antennas need to be more than 6' apart. Mounting the antennas behind the cab as many people do shields the receive and transmit signal which decreases the performance dramatically.
As for receive and transmit distances.... properly grounding the antenna along with a quality antenna such as the Wilson 1000 or 5000 will provide you better RX/TX distances than spending a lot of money on a killer radio...
IF you really want to talk a long distance... there is no replacement for the HAM license and having a 2 meter radio....
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To take full advantage of the co-phase design.... the antennas need to be more than 6' apart. Mounting the antennas behind the cab as many people do shields the receive and transmit signal which decreases the performance dramatically.
As for receive and transmit distances.... properly grounding the antenna along with a quality antenna such as the Wilson 1000 or 5000 will provide you better RX/TX distances than spending a lot of money on a killer radio...
IF you really want to talk a long distance... there is no replacement for the HAM license and having a 2 meter radio....
OR 4x4
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He is absolutley correct on the antennas. I used two for astetics on my 01 but I only hooked up one of them it worked really good. Now I have a magnet mount wilson that I only use when I go on vacation or off-roading. I use to have a 102" permanent mount whip but I gave that to Interceptor.
~HJ
~HJ
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Originally Posted by Sad_Savant
i'm runnin 2 dual firestik II's off of my rear bumper and i'm gettin 10-12 mile range on the highway and 6-7 city miles with my unmodified cobra 29 with no amplifier...
just tune them both at the same time and you'll be ok...
i also suggest that if they are spring mounted have someone pull back on them slightly to imitate their position as you are going down the road...
just tune them both at the same time and you'll be ok...
i also suggest that if they are spring mounted have someone pull back on them slightly to imitate their position as you are going down the road...
If you did objective testing, you'd find there is no real benefit.
You don't get "something for nothing". Antenna gain is acheived by interactions which tighten or "focus" the pattern which requires proper phasing and spacing -- neither of which you are acheiving. You are fooling yourself.
Simply splitting the signal between two antennas accomplishes nothing -- but it looks cool and even I like the look. Performance wise though, it's not worth the expense.
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Originally Posted by n3elz
Yes, and what would you get with ONE properly tuned antenna?
If you did objective testing, you'd find there is no real benefit.
You don't get "something for nothing". Antenna gain is acheived by interactions which tighten or "focus" the pattern which requires proper phasing and spacing -- neither of which you are acheiving. You are fooling yourself.
Simply splitting the signal between two antennas accomplishes nothing -- but it looks cool and even I like the look. Performance wise though, it's not worth the expense.
If you did objective testing, you'd find there is no real benefit.
You don't get "something for nothing". Antenna gain is acheived by interactions which tighten or "focus" the pattern which requires proper phasing and spacing -- neither of which you are acheiving. You are fooling yourself.
Simply splitting the signal between two antennas accomplishes nothing -- but it looks cool and even I like the look. Performance wise though, it's not worth the expense.
oh i fully agree with you john...i just happened to find this deal on e-bay, and i could not pass it up...2 for the price of 1 with a bunch of expensive goodies for free!!!
all i'm getting at is that short of driving an 18-wheeler or using UHF/VHF duals won't really hurt your set-up...they definitely won't help performance without spacing them properly, and placing them properly, (ie. one on the front bumper and one on the back bumper mounted above the crest of the cab)...
but for my application, since i'm still 14 years away from retirement from the Air Force and 20 years from buying my own rig, i'll settle for the aesthetics and my range that i have now....all personal preference when it all boils down i guess...
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Originally Posted by OffRoad 4x4
FireRanger,
The ONLY way that FRS radios could TX that far is if both people using the radios were line of sight on 4000' mountain tops with no obstructions.
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The ONLY way that FRS radios could TX that far is if both people using the radios were line of sight on 4000' mountain tops with no obstructions.
OR 4x4
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John,
OH SO TRUE !!! Most of the performance claims are in a laboratory environment with IDEAL conditions.... Generally IF a manufacturer makes a claim of 15 HP it is actually closer to 7-10 HP. The installation of several performance parts ARE NOT accumulative.... Meaning the installation of 4 items that are each advertised to give you a 10 HP increase... WILL NOT give you a total increase of 40 HP... More likely about 15-20 HP.
OR 4x4
OH SO TRUE !!! Most of the performance claims are in a laboratory environment with IDEAL conditions.... Generally IF a manufacturer makes a claim of 15 HP it is actually closer to 7-10 HP. The installation of several performance parts ARE NOT accumulative.... Meaning the installation of 4 items that are each advertised to give you a 10 HP increase... WILL NOT give you a total increase of 40 HP... More likely about 15-20 HP.
OR 4x4
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