electrical help!
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Please make a signature stating the information on your truck....we have no idea what your drive.
We need details in order to have a chance to help you.
It's puts those little Haynes manuals to shame.
Last edited by logan03CO; 09-21-2013 at 09:10 PM.
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How do you want the lights to operate? Do you just want them to come on when your current fog lights do - is that why you were thinking of using the factory switch?
Perhaps you already know this - but with very few exceptions, you will want to use a relay with aftermarket lights. Depending on how you want it to operate, it will be easier to get your 'trigger wire' from somewhere else.
If you just want them to come on when your current fogs do - I would just use the existing switchleg at the current fog light (The tan/orange #18 AWG wire at the fog light socket, or the same wire at pin #5 on the factory fog light relay) as the coil 'trigger wire' on the aftermarket relay.
Ford uses a ground switched setup for the factory fog switch. This switch then controls the factory fog light relay - meaning it's not a basic or standard two wire switch & also shouldn't be used to carry the actual current of the lights.
Either way, here are your fog light wiring diagrams for your model year truck (2004):
Last edited by logan03CO; 09-21-2013 at 10:48 PM.
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Don't make this harder than it needs to be.
Does your truck have fog lights already ?
Are you going to keep them along with the DayLighters ?
What wattage are the DayLighters ?
Do you want an override/off switch ?
Let us know what your requirements are ?
Here is a write up I did, works on all aux lighting and instead of getting switch power from the fuse panel you can wire it to the fog light wiring to come on with them and the switch inline, can be just in case you want them off.
https://www.ranger-forums.com/interi...-light-105901/
Let us know where ou are going with this ?
Does your truck have fog lights already ?
Are you going to keep them along with the DayLighters ?
What wattage are the DayLighters ?
Do you want an override/off switch ?
Let us know what your requirements are ?
Here is a write up I did, works on all aux lighting and instead of getting switch power from the fuse panel you can wire it to the fog light wiring to come on with them and the switch inline, can be just in case you want them off.
https://www.ranger-forums.com/interi...-light-105901/
Let us know where ou are going with this ?
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Assuming all you did was disconnect the fog lights (and didn't remove the factory fog light relay, harnesses and everything else) - just use that old foglight power wire (The tan/orange #18 AWG wire at the previous fog light socket), as the coil 'trigger wire' on the aftermarket relay.
When using the diagram Grev posted (https://www.ranger-forums.com/interi...1/#post1649740) - that factory foglight wire would attached at pin #85 of the aftermarket light relay. This new 'trigger wire' would just replace what he shows being connected to pin #85 in his diagram (fusebox power, the aftermarket switch & the indicator light).
That way the factory switch/relay setup will just be controlling the aftermarket relay without making it overly complicated and trying to rework it all.
Last edited by logan03CO; 09-22-2013 at 09:33 AM.
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There are other way to do it like the Buggman Harness if you want to do a direct wire. Or you can use the diagram I posted and use a double throw center off switch and you can have a by-pass if needed or even turn them off completely.
Once you determine the wattage of the new lights, determine the amperage draw, then you can safely determine the gauge wire, the power wire fuse size and the proper relay, all should be rated for at least the total amperage draw of the lights plus 20%, except the fuse that should be rated for the light draw.
Get back to us with the wattage of the new lights, we can then determine the proper wire gauge, fuse size and relay for your application.
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Once you determine the wattage of the new lights, determine the amperage draw, then you can safely determine the gauge wire, the power wire fuse size and the proper relay, all should be rated for at least the total amperage draw of the lights plus 20%, except the fuse that should be rated for the light draw.
Get back to us with the wattage of the new lights, we can then determine the proper wire gauge, fuse size and relay for your application.
Get back to us with the wattage of the new lights, we can then determine the proper wire gauge, fuse size and relay for your application.
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I have had no luck finding the wattage here is a link to the lights if you want to take a look and see if you know what gauge wire and relay to use ANZO USA | High Intensity Discharge (HID) - Off-Road. They are the 4"
You mentioned DayLighters, usually made by KC.
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The 4" Sorry I refer to all offroad lights as daylighters, but there is a 15 amp fuse already running threw the power wire that came with the lights if this will help any and I'll leave that at that sorry to drive you guys crazy over some dam lights. I appreciate all the info and tomorrow hopefully they will be good to go
Also if the truck goes up in flames she is insured aha. I am not very electrical inclined
Also if the truck goes up in flames she is insured aha. I am not very electrical inclined
Last edited by TeamYamaha90; 09-22-2013 at 05:09 PM.
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My opinion, what you get with the HID Package is what you use.
Use the wire that attaches to the OEM Fog Lights as the power in for the new harness.
Then the OEM Fog Light Switch will operate the new lights.
You will need to pull the OEM Fog Light Wire back enough to attach it to pin 85 on the relay.
Use the wire that attaches to the OEM Fog Lights as the power in for the new harness.
Then the OEM Fog Light Switch will operate the new lights.
You will need to pull the OEM Fog Light Wire back enough to attach it to pin 85 on the relay.
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I think Logan has stated what you need to do several times now.
Use a relay setup for the Off-Road lights (don't confuse them with Daylighters. They're not...) and just use the fog light power line as a trigger. This will literally be the easiest way you can do it, because the old fog light harness you left in the truck will have the wire (which Logan says was the Orange one) Just tap into that (for the love of god don't use a Scotch-Lock) and run that wire to your relay. I'm pretty sure those lights will draw more current than the Foglights did, so i would avoid using the stock harness to power them. Besides that, it'll save you a headache from trying to track down all the wires you'll need to power the lights.
Just my $.02
Use a relay setup for the Off-Road lights (don't confuse them with Daylighters. They're not...) and just use the fog light power line as a trigger. This will literally be the easiest way you can do it, because the old fog light harness you left in the truck will have the wire (which Logan says was the Orange one) Just tap into that (for the love of god don't use a Scotch-Lock) and run that wire to your relay. I'm pretty sure those lights will draw more current than the Foglights did, so i would avoid using the stock harness to power them. Besides that, it'll save you a headache from trying to track down all the wires you'll need to power the lights.
Just my $.02
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