Engine Problem.. Any Thoughts?
#26
Originally Posted by rngprerunner
Code is a Cylander 4 Misfire
Wires are about 5000 old, I had a small miss before and replacing them cured it. Coil is the Distributerless Ignition System they all have, so if it goes they should all go, plugs are about 10,000 old and are Autolite Double Platinum.
Soooo... I have the stock wires and a second set of plugs, so I will swap cylander 4's plug and wire and see if it cures the problem.
No the million dollar question, which is cylander 4? Is it numbered
5 6
3 4
1 2
or
3 6
2 5
1 4
??
Wires are about 5000 old, I had a small miss before and replacing them cured it. Coil is the Distributerless Ignition System they all have, so if it goes they should all go, plugs are about 10,000 old and are Autolite Double Platinum.
Soooo... I have the stock wires and a second set of plugs, so I will swap cylander 4's plug and wire and see if it cures the problem.
No the million dollar question, which is cylander 4? Is it numbered
5 6
3 4
1 2
or
3 6
2 5
1 4
??
As far as the coil pack goes, it is actually 3 independent double-ended coils in one assembly, so you can have a partial failure.
#28
Originally Posted by n3elz
Try plugging the MAF back in...
Seriously, though, except for the code it threw, those are often the symptoms of a MAF that is not plugged in.
Seriously, though, except for the code it threw, those are often the symptoms of a MAF that is not plugged in.
Were gonna hope for the best and say its a plug or wire
If it were a partial coil pack out that would affect two cylanders then, and I'm only getting the one misfire...?
Well its gonna have to wait till morning cause its dark and I'm hungry, at least now I know what the problem is, now its just finding its source... oh boy
#29
Originally Posted by rngprerunner
If it were a partial coil pack out that would affect two cylanders then, and I'm only getting the one misfire...?
I don't believe that your coil pack is the problem in this case, just responding to your statement that the CP would affect all cylinders.
#31
You can forget about the IAC. It only controls idle air flow and preposition for the dashpot function. It will work fine without a reset - the only problems could be a dip or flare when changing transmission or AC modes. It will eventually learn its way out of these, even without a reset.
The IAC has nothing to do with A/F ratio, ignition or EGR flow; these are the things to consider when working on a hesitation or bucking problem.
The IAC has nothing to do with A/F ratio, ignition or EGR flow; these are the things to consider when working on a hesitation or bucking problem.
#32
I had a 94 tbird with the 4.6... had a wire go bad and start grounding out...
Also a few monthes later one of the coil packs went bad which killed 2 cyl only not 4. There is a way to check them with an ohm meter but i dont remember.
Also what wires did you use.. if its the autozone special.. that could be an issue.
Rand
Also a few monthes later one of the coil packs went bad which killed 2 cyl only not 4. There is a way to check them with an ohm meter but i dont remember.
Also what wires did you use.. if its the autozone special.. that could be an issue.
Rand
#33
Originally Posted by rwenzing
You can forget about the IAC. It only controls idle air flow and preposition for the dashpot function. It will work fine without a reset - the only problems could be a dip or flare when changing transmission or AC modes. It will eventually learn its way out of these, even without a reset.
The IAC has nothing to do with A/F ratio, ignition or EGR flow; these are the things to consider when working on a hesitation or bucking problem.
The IAC has nothing to do with A/F ratio, ignition or EGR flow; these are the things to consider when working on a hesitation or bucking problem.
The wire are good wires, maybe a bad one sliped in or this plug just took a dump, I'll know more in the morning.
Thanks for the help for sure!!
#34
Originally Posted by Rangerboy
When you change the IAC you must also reset the computer.
#35
After a reset and before driving the truck, the PCM relearns the default IAC airflow rates for 4 idle modes
Neutral w/o AC
Neutral w/AC
In gear w/o AC
In gear W/AC
(manual trans trucks have only the 2 neutral modes):
The correct flow rates can be established within one minute in each mode provided that the engine is at operating temperature. Once the truck has been driven, the PCM learning rate for the default flows becomes much slower, to adjust for changes in average ambient temperature, barometric pressure, engine wear, etc.
The IAC flow rate and ignition timing are constantly being adjusted by the PCM to maintain the correct idle speed. The 4 learned settings for the IAC flow rates are only used briefly at the initial change from of the 4 modes to another. Failing to reset the PCM simply lengthens the time it takes for the IAC mode default values to be learned. During that time, there may be dips or flares in idle speed as the engine is changed from one mode to another. Examples would be shifting from Neutral to Drive or Reverse or as the AC compressor cycles.
I'm not implying that the PCM shouldn't be reset. But I am saying that the lack of a PCM reset is not causing the hesitation. In fact, I would say that the IAC is not involved in the hesitation at all.
Neutral w/o AC
Neutral w/AC
In gear w/o AC
In gear W/AC
(manual trans trucks have only the 2 neutral modes):
The correct flow rates can be established within one minute in each mode provided that the engine is at operating temperature. Once the truck has been driven, the PCM learning rate for the default flows becomes much slower, to adjust for changes in average ambient temperature, barometric pressure, engine wear, etc.
The IAC flow rate and ignition timing are constantly being adjusted by the PCM to maintain the correct idle speed. The 4 learned settings for the IAC flow rates are only used briefly at the initial change from of the 4 modes to another. Failing to reset the PCM simply lengthens the time it takes for the IAC mode default values to be learned. During that time, there may be dips or flares in idle speed as the engine is changed from one mode to another. Examples would be shifting from Neutral to Drive or Reverse or as the AC compressor cycles.
I'm not implying that the PCM shouldn't be reset. But I am saying that the lack of a PCM reset is not causing the hesitation. In fact, I would say that the IAC is not involved in the hesitation at all.
#36
Originally Posted by rwenzing
I'm not implying that the PCM shouldn't be reset. But I am saying that the lack of a PCM reset is not causing the hesitation. In fact, I would say that the IAC is not involved in the hesitation at all.
Off to change some plugs/wires
#38
Originally Posted by rwenzing
Some possibilities for a bog/hesitation:
Bad fuel
Weak ignition
Too much EGR flow
Throttle Position Sensor
MAF Sensor
Bad fuel
Weak ignition
Too much EGR flow
Throttle Position Sensor
MAF Sensor
No EGR
TPS Cleaned
MAF Cleaned
Changed the plug in Cylinder 4, and its idleing perfect. Time to go road test it, but I thougt I'd put this photo up before I leave. What do you think this plug is trying to tell me?
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