General Technical & Electrical General technical and electrical discussion for the Ford Ranger that does not fit in any other sub-forum.

ABS getting too excited

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-14-2005
01fordby4's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: leesbur, va
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ABS getting too excited *NEW PROBLEM DETECTED*

Just recently my ABS has been getting overly excited and has decided to act up in normal traffic. I will be slowing down at stop signs and traffic lights and the pedal just goes crazy. Like every time i press the pedal down for more than 3 seconds it starts pumping and going nuts. I have not changed my driving style at all. Is there anything i can do to fix it? Maybe replace a sensor, module, etc. Any help or ideas on what drug got into the ABS system are welcomed...
 

Last edited by 01fordby4; 11-15-2005 at 03:27 PM. Reason: new problem discovered
  #2  
Old 11-14-2005
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,623
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
That is odd. Are you sure it's the ABS and not something loose in your braking system? I would expect a bad sender that caused something like that to be detected, but maybe not. I'd check your brakes over good, though. A loose shoe in the rear or caliper might be able to make the pedal pump as well if it was grabbing and pushing back on the hydraulic system.

I'm also wondering if a vacuum loss would do it by periodically "hardening" the pedal travel and giving you a feel like it was pulsing. Think I'm "reaching" here though.

If you had a wire that was pulling loose or shorting when decellerating, it would "interrupt" the signal from the sensor and cause the system to think the wheel had stopped rotating.

I'll check the service manual, and Bob or someone else may have more insight.
 
  #3  
Old 11-14-2005
01fordby4's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: leesbur, va
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Im not 100% sure its ABS but it is pulses just like it. Is there a fuse or something that i could pull to check if it is the ABS system?
 
  #4  
Old 11-14-2005
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,623
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
'01? Yes, fuse 14 in the cab fuse box. That's the one that tells the ABS the key is on and activates it. I pull it to disable ABS offroad.
 
  #5  
Old 11-14-2005
FMD's Avatar
FMD
FMD is offline
Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Amherst NY
Posts: 3,873
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
eh theres a recall on the abs system for rangers and explorers, i believe its for earlier uers, i know it affected my truck, but u may wanna look into that. btw- it didnt solve my issues.
 
  #6  
Old 11-15-2005
Earl43P's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Elizabeth City, NC
Posts: 767
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Yeah, you can pull the fuse to troubleshoot ABS problems, but it will kill your speedometer, cruise control, etc.
 
  #7  
Old 11-15-2005
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Somewhere, XYZ
Posts: 4,351
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
^^^ Is that true? Bob implemented an ABS disable switch on his truck.. I thought he interrupted the same circuit as pulling the fuse does..
 
  #8  
Old 11-15-2005
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,910
Likes: 0
Received 23 Likes on 20 Posts
Originally Posted by NHBubba
^^^ Is that true? Bob implemented an ABS disable switch on his truck.. I thought he interrupted the same circuit as pulling the fuse does..
Exactly. The 4WABS module is on a dedicated fuse (#14) for 2001 through 2003. Removing it doesn't affect anything else.
 
  #9  
Old 11-15-2005
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,910
Likes: 0
Received 23 Likes on 20 Posts
On 98~2000 Rangers like Earl's, the VSS signal goes through the 4WABS module (except trucks with RABS), so pulling #14 would affect the speedometer and speed control on those years.
 
  #10  
Old 11-15-2005
01fordby4's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: leesbur, va
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yea the fuse doesnt do anything else to the gauges.

Anyways,
I found out the problem that i had. It has nothing to do with the ABS at all. I think the problem i have discovered is alot more serious...
Today on the way home from school i noticed this noise comming from the rear of my truck so wen i got home i decided to investigate what it is. I pulled off the drivers side rear drum and discovered this ugly situation i gotta deal with:


The pumping of the pedal im gonna assume is the broken piece circling around inside the brakes and getting stuck ontop of itself (if that even makes sense to you guys). I no longer have the pumping problem, or noise problem.

I do however, need to get that piece replaced for the driverside rear axle. Does anybody know what it is called? I think this is gonna cost me mucho dinero (alot of money). Also will i have to get raped at the dealer or is there anywhere else i can go?

*Also i did drive the truck around my neighborhood to see if it is safe w/ the broken brakes. It seemed fine to me, but what do you guys think?
 

Last edited by 01fordby4; 11-15-2005 at 03:30 PM.
  #11  
Old 11-15-2005
ranger024x4's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: nova
Posts: 5,061
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i wouldnt drive it...


do u need your truck? cuz i would try ebay...
 
  #12  
Old 11-15-2005
01fordby4's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: leesbur, va
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yea i need my truck, i could bum rides off people for a few days. It could sit in the garage for a day or two but i really need it.
 
  #13  
Old 11-15-2005
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,623
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by n3elz
but maybe not. I'd check your brakes over good, though. A loose shoe in the rear or caliper might be able to make the pedal pump as well if it was grabbing and pushing back on the hydraulic system
What I was afraid of -- I've had similar problems which is why I brought it up in the first place.

I've rebuilt my rear brakes twice now -- once to put on my new axle on, and again to fix the mistakes I made!
 
  #14  
Old 11-15-2005
IN2 FX4's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Posts: 1,203
Received 89 Likes on 73 Posts
Originally Posted by 01fordby4

I do however, need to get that piece replaced for the driverside rear axle. Does anybody know what it is called? I think this is gonna cost me mucho dinero (alot of money). Also will i have to get raped at the dealer or is there anywhere else i can go?

*Also i did drive the truck around my neighborhood to see if it is safe w/ the broken brakes. It seemed fine to me, but what do you guys think?
That piece is called the liner for the brake shoes. You need new brake shoes and do both sides. You don't have to go to the dealer for this but make sure whoever does it uses good quality brake shoes and turns the drums. If you drive it like it is now you could end up having to replace the brake drum also. I hope it has not already been damaged too much. Good luck.
 
  #15  
Old 11-15-2005
01fordby4's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: leesbur, va
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is there anyway i can do this myself? From what i have seen the shoes are about $35-$45. And the drum would be around $40. Would I be better off buying the shoes and drum just incase, or just pay somebody for the fix? Also would i need any special tools?
 
  #16  
Old 11-15-2005
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,623
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
"Special" tools aren't necessary -- but the springs are a pain. MAKE SURE you make a drawing or take a picture of the stuff before you disassemble. There are several easy mistakes you can make that will have you taking your brakes apart AGAIN.

Look online for some information on doing rear brakes -- most are similar in construction and once you understand them, they're not so hard. They are just time consuming, tedious, and generally a pain. I'll be glad to get rear discs!
 
  #17  
Old 11-15-2005
01fordby4's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: leesbur, va
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Haha that the exact same thought i had as i pulled off the drum. I was like why can i have an explorer axle? So all i will need is a drum, and a pair of shoes? Or should i get a kit?
 
  #18  
Old 11-15-2005
ranger024x4's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: nova
Posts: 5,061
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
if u need a repair manual, u can use mine...
 
  #19  
Old 11-15-2005
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,623
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
If any of the other part are damaged or badly worn you can replace them. A spring kit is nice to have. Sometimes (rarely) one will break when you take it off, or bend or whatever. It's nice to have new ones to put on. The basic rebuild kit comes with springs, clips and what not.

Another kit contains the brake automatic adjuster parts. The auto adjuster kit is about $10 to $15 (one side) and the spring kits are cheap, $5 to $10 generally and usually do both sides. Depends on where you buy. Good to have though.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rangerboy101
General Ford Ranger Discussion
43
11-23-2008 05:54 PM
edgerider2002
General Ford Ranger Discussion
5
11-21-2008 07:33 PM
D.
Project Logs
24
09-14-2008 10:36 AM
WowMike2001
General Ford Ranger Discussion
8
02-11-2008 09:27 AM
zabeard
General Ford Ranger Discussion
25
06-08-2006 04:37 PM



Quick Reply: ABS getting too excited



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:49 PM.