4.2 in a ranger?
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4.2 in a ranger?
has any one ever done this i just got my ranger and i wanna set it up prerunner style and was figuring that the 4.2 would be a better swap than the 351 that i have sitting in my back yard, i was just wonderin if anyone had done this before and what would be involved i have a 3.o with bout 245000 miles on it with a 5 speed tranny
#2
Originally Posted by bondoford
has any one ever done this i just got my ranger and i wanna set it up prerunner style and was figuring that the 4.2 would be a better swap than the 351 that i have sitting in my back yard, i was just wonderin if anyone had done this before and what would be involved i have a 3.o with bout 245000 miles on it with a 5 speed tranny
The 3.0L transmission that you have now will not bolt up to the 4.2. The 4.2 bolt pattern for the bell housing is the same as the 5.0L, so you should be able to use the same transmissions as used in 5.0 swaps like the T5, M5ODR2, C4 or 4R70W.
If I were going to do the work involved with an engine swap, I would just install a 302/351. It is a well established swap with kit parts available and the 302/351 has a huge aftermarket where the 4.2L has almost none.
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Originally Posted by NicksterSVT
4.2 is nothing more than the 3.8 head gasket blowing windstar motor. Timing cover leaks galore, oil pumps suck, not a good idea... Seen too many of these in their stock form and in their stock home not stay together... Dont waste your time with it...
However I agree just do the 5.0 swap. It'll be easier and honestly a lot more fun to drive.
#10
I think it is a Waste of money, But I deny the premis of them being POS motors. I worked with these in Fleet F-150 Varying from 1997 to 2004 (When I left the ford dealer) Almost without fail these motors went to 250K+ with little or no work and very little maintenance (Most guys beat the pi$$ out of then and never changed the oil) I can only think of one in the years I was there that ever needed a new motor, and none that ever Blew a Head gasket.
The stock 5 Spds in these trucks were another story (not sure what tranny it was) but we went through shift forks like candy. After 2000 we never bought another stick truck.
Here is my Last truck, 150K miles and nothing more than maintenance, they still have it last time I visited in December:
^ The tan one next to it, had 220K the last time I drove it and it also is still in the fleet almost three years later
The stock 5 Spds in these trucks were another story (not sure what tranny it was) but we went through shift forks like candy. After 2000 we never bought another stick truck.
Here is my Last truck, 150K miles and nothing more than maintenance, they still have it last time I visited in December:
^ The tan one next to it, had 220K the last time I drove it and it also is still in the fleet almost three years later
#11
Originally Posted by HAZZARDJOHN
I think it is a Waste of money, But I deny the premis of them being POS motors. I worked with these in Fleet F-150 Varying from 1997 to 2004 (When I left the ford dealer) Almost without fail these motors went to 250K+ with little or no work and very little maintenance (Most guys beat the pi$$ out of then and never changed the oil) I can only think of one in the years I was there that ever needed a new motor, and none that ever Blew a Head gasket.
The stock 5 Spds in these trucks were another story (not sure what tranny it was) but we went through shift forks like candy. After 2000 we never bought another stick truck.
Here is my Last truck, 150K miles and nothing more than maintenance, they still have it last time I visited in December:
^ The tan one next to it, had 220K the last time I drove it and it also is still in the fleet almost three years later
The stock 5 Spds in these trucks were another story (not sure what tranny it was) but we went through shift forks like candy. After 2000 we never bought another stick truck.
Here is my Last truck, 150K miles and nothing more than maintenance, they still have it last time I visited in December:
^ The tan one next to it, had 220K the last time I drove it and it also is still in the fleet almost three years later
Not doubting you, just saying... I have been in the automotive field all my life, i have seen several of these come through and had to replace lots of stuff... i have a severe hatred for them...
#12
i was just thinkin maby the milage would be better and ive drivin the f-150 with the 4.2 manual and it seemed to preform pretty nice for the weight of the truck with a v6 in it and im still a highschool studend soon so be college student so i still need somthin economical that i can afford to drive and i have a heavy right foot so my 351 with the holly 4 bbl dosnt exactly fit those perimiters
#13
My father and I had a Thunderbird 3.8 V-6 in a 1986 Ranger (an old 2.0 powered truck) with a 302 C-4 transmission, custom intake with 670cfm Holley Pro-Jection throttle-body EFI, dual exhaust, Racer Walsh camshaft, and home ported heads. Sure it was not V-8 swap, but we did it because it was different and it was a lightweight combo. We put over 400,000 miles on that old truck before finally retiring it. The last 50,000 were with a 302 when the old 3.8 started to feel weak (age). It would waste 4.3 S-10s, etc. with ease. It is not a bad combo. Sure a V-8 swap is easier (can buy a swap kit, but it is just as easy to make your own stuff like we did for the 3.8 and the current 5.0 V-8 Ranger my Dad has), but if it is what you want, then I say go for it.
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Originally Posted by NicksterSVT
Not doubting you, just saying... I have been in the automotive field all my life, i have seen several of these come through and had to replace lots of stuff... i have a severe hatred for them...
~HJ