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think about the cut and rotation of the ring and pinion... they run low pinions in the rear and high pinions in the front for best strength as far as hp vs lp
ford developed the HP axle with Dana I think i read. a HP front turns the same way as a LP rear...
its all on how you land on the axle and they vehicle setup... its like anything else some people break them some dont
ford developed the HP axle with Dana I think i read. a HP front turns the same way as a LP rear...
its all on how you land on the axle and they vehicle setup... its like anything else some people break them some dont
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D30's are still weak for a Ranger. And you'll have a greater driveshaft angle with an LP axle. For a lifted vehicle a HP is better for that alone. On stock it doesn't matter so much, but when you push it up there it becomes more of an issues. Yes, the ring and pinion strength is enhanced with the HP configuration in the front particularly. In the rear, the longer driveshaft is less of an angle hit with low pinion.
You don't think Jeep designed the TJ with high lift in mind do you? No, the LP axle was a manufacturing decision more than a design decision I'm sure.
I absolutely would not put a D30 in the front of any Ranger that was going to be thrashed. Some guys who have are re-evaluating it for several reasons.
Jeeps, don't forget, are lighter than Rangers. Less sprung weight.
People argue all day that, "I know someone with a D30 who does so-and-so."
I know people who smoked all their lives and lived to be 90. I know more who ended up on oxygen in late life, and/or with emphysema and cancer.
Play the odds -- D30 is weaker than a D44. It's the easy way out but it's not a good solution no matter how you argue it. You can truss a D30 and buy alloy axles and so forth but by then you might as well have gotten a better axle to begin with.
My .02 and with that I'll scoot because I'm simply not engaging and discussion for which, as a famous television show used to say: "The proof is out there..."
You don't think Jeep designed the TJ with high lift in mind do you? No, the LP axle was a manufacturing decision more than a design decision I'm sure.
I absolutely would not put a D30 in the front of any Ranger that was going to be thrashed. Some guys who have are re-evaluating it for several reasons.
Jeeps, don't forget, are lighter than Rangers. Less sprung weight.
People argue all day that, "I know someone with a D30 who does so-and-so."
I know people who smoked all their lives and lived to be 90. I know more who ended up on oxygen in late life, and/or with emphysema and cancer.
Play the odds -- D30 is weaker than a D44. It's the easy way out but it's not a good solution no matter how you argue it. You can truss a D30 and buy alloy axles and so forth but by then you might as well have gotten a better axle to begin with.
My .02 and with that I'll scoot because I'm simply not engaging and discussion for which, as a famous television show used to say: "The proof is out there..."
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D30's are still weak for a Ranger. And you'll have a greater driveshaft angle with an LP axle. For a lifted vehicle a HP is better for that alone. On stock it doesn't matter so much, but when you push it up there it becomes more of an issues. Yes, the ring and pinion strength is enhanced with the HP configuration in the front particularly. In the rear, the longer driveshaft is less of an angle hit with low pinion.
You don't think Jeep designed the TJ with high lift in mind do you? No, the LP axle was a manufacturing decision more than a design decision I'm sure.
I absolutely would not put a D30 in the front of any Ranger that was going to be thrashed. Some guys who have are re-evaluating it for several reasons.
Jeeps, don't forget, are lighter than Rangers. Less sprung weight.
People argue all day that, "I know someone with a D30 who does so-and-so."
I know people who smoked all their lives and lived to be 90. I know more who ended up on oxygen in late life, and/or with emphysema and cancer.
Play the odds -- D30 is weaker than a D44. It's the easy way out but it's not a good solution no matter how you argue it. You can truss a D30 and buy alloy axles and so forth but by then you might as well have gotten a better axle to begin with.
My .02 and with that I'll scoot because I'm simply not engaging and discussion for which, as a famous television show used to say: "The proof is out there..."
You don't think Jeep designed the TJ with high lift in mind do you? No, the LP axle was a manufacturing decision more than a design decision I'm sure.
I absolutely would not put a D30 in the front of any Ranger that was going to be thrashed. Some guys who have are re-evaluating it for several reasons.
Jeeps, don't forget, are lighter than Rangers. Less sprung weight.
People argue all day that, "I know someone with a D30 who does so-and-so."
I know people who smoked all their lives and lived to be 90. I know more who ended up on oxygen in late life, and/or with emphysema and cancer.
Play the odds -- D30 is weaker than a D44. It's the easy way out but it's not a good solution no matter how you argue it. You can truss a D30 and buy alloy axles and so forth but by then you might as well have gotten a better axle to begin with.
My .02 and with that I'll scoot because I'm simply not engaging and discussion for which, as a famous television show used to say: "The proof is out there..."
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#1....pick-n-pull's KNOW what they have. They usually pull the D60s and put them on axle racks.
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That's why I chose a D44. I got my D44 and a 9" Rear for $225 bucks. And the guy cut it off the Bronco for me. Haha...
Just seems like for what I'm going to be doing a D44 with $1k worth of upgrades seemed like a better option then a stock D60.
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D60 front...never. Do you realize how much ground clearence that thing takes. I wouldn't wheel anything less than 42 or 44 inch tires on a 60.
A full width 44 is the best bet for a ranger. In all reality a D30 is weaker than a 40, mostly due to the size of the R/P. The axle shafts themselves are pretty much the same dia and a set of alloys will go a long way.
Still best to build a 44. I'm on a D30 in the front of my jeep but I don't plan to build that. It is just a stepping stone.
A full width 44 is the best bet for a ranger. In all reality a D30 is weaker than a 40, mostly due to the size of the R/P. The axle shafts themselves are pretty much the same dia and a set of alloys will go a long way.
Still best to build a 44. I'm on a D30 in the front of my jeep but I don't plan to build that. It is just a stepping stone.
