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Zabeard's Front 3link and Coilovers (Done)

Basically the other thread is so long and its already been SAS'd

I am converting from XJ/TJ Long arm system to a custom 3 link setup. Ditching the 5.5" XJ coils for 14" Ballistic Fabrication 2.125" coilovers.

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Lower Link
2.63" Ballistic JJ on the axle and frame end of the lowers.
Roughly 41" Long (eyelet to eyelet)


Passenger side upper Link
2.63" Ballistic JJ on the axle end and a 7/8" - 3/4" Ball Chromo Heim on the frame end
Roughly 31" long eyelet to eyelet

10" of separation of the upper and lower links at the axle end.

Plan is to have 6" of up travel and 8" of down 60/40

I am also putting on a Currie AntiRock sway bar, I had one, it wont work with the width and steering setup so I bought the full size one 44" with 20" arms and I will make that work.

During the change I will be replacing the panhard with a longer one because of the added room, hopefully that will also improve the front suspension.


Some may ask why I am doing it, list of reasons

Caster change within travel
Rubber bushings suck
more accurate spring rate
better travel

I'm sure there are other reasons.

I have a big parts list, I will post that later.

I have all the parts in possession except the coilovers. I cant order those until I get my truck weighed.
 
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bad *** let me know if you want a hand
 
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This should be interesting. Good luck with the install.
 
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now your just making me look bad. Your "technically" going to have 2 SAS's done on your truck before my one......
 
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Good luck Zach, although I know it'll turn out quite nice!

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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
now your just making me look bad. Your "technically" going to have 2 SAS's done on your truck before my one......
hop to it skippy
 
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
now your just making me look bad. Your "technically" going to have 2 SAS's done on your truck before my one......
I'm trying
 
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oh yeah, any questions or insight into the project is always welcome!
 
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Why so short on the upper link compared to the lowers?
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoAu-gPPktQ

Watch that video, its pinion angle for dummies type of stuff. It shows a bunch of different types of 4 links, but its the same thing for what your doing. The short upper causes alot of pinion change, if you want it to remain flat through out the travel you need to keep the links as even in length as possible.
 
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You weren't kidding when you told me you had the parts LOL
 
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i just wanted to comment on your profile pic there, im pretty sure that you may be stuck
 
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Originally Posted by darkstar_420
i just wanted to comment on your profile pic there, im pretty sure that you may be stuck
no kidding or he just plowed through with 4wd.
 
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
Why so short on the upper link compared to the lowers?
based off a few articles that i have read the upper should be 75% of the lowers.

when i get home i will look at my bookmarks and show you. that is really the only reason.

I already bought the DOM, but it is a little bit long.
 
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoAu-gPPktQ

Watch that video, its pinion angle for dummies type of stuff. It shows a bunch of different types of 4 links, but its the same thing for what your doing. The short upper causes alot of pinion change, if you want it to remain flat through out the travel you need to keep the links as even in length as possible.
sweet video, really helps you understand them
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
based off a few articles that i have read the upper should be 75% of the lowers.

when i get home i will look at my bookmarks and show you. that is really the only reason.

I already bought the DOM, but it is a little bit long.
Have you plugged anything into the Pirate 3link Calculator?

http://mysite.verizon.net/triaged/fi...kV1.0bBETA.zip

Just seems like from a pinion travel stand point you want them closer in length. Specially if your going to be pulling a lot of travel because the pinion will rotate a lot through out.
 
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
Have you plugged anything into the Pirate 3link Calculator?

http://mysite.verizon.net/triaged/fi...kV1.0bBETA.zip

Just seems like from a pinion travel stand point you want them closer in length. Specially if your going to be pulling a lot of travel because the pinion will rotate a lot through out.
PS. What are you doing with your current long arms?
 
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I sold my long arms to HighrollerII

I have messed with that calculator some but i will some more too before i get too far.
 
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I took some pics this afternoon.

$750+ worth of parts




Btw this is one of the best tools I have got. I just hole sawed a 2" x.25 wall DOM with a 2.63" Hole saw extremely easy. Its awesome, worth every penny

 
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I see the rest of the parts finally got there.
 
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what axle is behind all the parts?
 
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Originally Posted by ranger
what axle is behind all the parts?
Ford F150 8.8
 
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MMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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Tubing notcher ftw. Cool stuff Zach.
 
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Damn all those parts just scream sexiness!!!
 


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