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Any real Fox dealer worth a damn should set them up the way you need them based on your specific vehicle. Somewhere in this thread I have talked about it multiple times. Due to the high degree of customization these performance items allow for - there is really no such thing as a standard "off the shelf" Fox setup.

It's all in the valving...you can make a performance shock act entirely different depending on the valving.




I wouldn't use a generic online 'shopping cart' to purchase the actual coilovers (See above for why). You really should call and talk with a dealer directly (not a 'phone sales' employee either). I worked with Downsouth Motorsports for my Fox stuff. Sonny (The Owner) has a great reputation in the offroad & race community. He asked me all sorts of questions about how I would use everything - from exactly what it was going on, to what type of offroading environments it would see (rock,desert, mud etc), percentage onroad versus offroad etc.

Like I have said before, if they don't ask about how you will use your truck...don't buy from them, because they aren't looking out for you past the actual sale itself.
I was gunna call when I ordered them because I remember you saying that.


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They raise the bottom of the shock body above your CV boot & axle to prevent rubbing. You really need all the room you can get down there between the CV boot and the coilover body/spring to prevent rubbing.

They are also known as "extended lower-eyelets".

Stock Fox brand coilover's come with a shorter version normally...these would take the place of them. If I remember correctly, you want one that is 3.75" to the center of the eye.



As I explained on page #32 of this same thread (The direct link is here: coilover brackets), I had a typo in one of my previous post from like 2010 and the part number should have actually been: 213-01-238-A (assuming you use a Fox coilover with a 5/8" shaft). I can't edit the post because even when I first noticed it last year, it was already too late and the post is 'locked'.

In this picture the long rod end (aka - extended eyelet) is installed on the bottom of my spare coilvers and the standard Fox eyelet's are shown loose:


Here is a picture from someone's truck that show's pretty clearly why you need an extended eyelet:
That makes so much more sense now! Thanks for the pics that just answered 3 more questions.



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Nope.

There are two different sets of spacers needed. A top spacer that goes between the coil bucket and the upper bracket (top only - 1 needed for each side) and another series of 'side to side' spacers that fill up the gap between the eyelet of the coilover and the bracket (top & bottom - 4 needed for each side).

However, the kit's that ME00Stepside is selling seems to include all the spacers needed.

Top Spacer Example:



Side to Side Spacer Example:

Duh lol I knew that. I was thinking to hard I just don't want to miss anything.

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I know it can take some time reading over every page of this thread...but all of this information is out there. Between the thread we are in and this other one: Coil-over sadness/madness I know all of this has been discussed and explained in the past.

I know this is the case -- because I have typed a fair amount of it out over the years to try to help multiple people out! LOL

PS - If anyone is interested in a brand new (never installed) set of the real & original RCD coilover brackets - complete w/ hardware, Eibach Springs and/or Fox Coilovers for a stock height truck send me a PM. The person I had arranged to sell everything to - backed out. All items are brand new & never installed, and I don't really need them anymore since I went with the full RCD suspension lift.
PM on the way.



Thanks for all of this info that clears a lot up.

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Thanks for all of this info that clears a lot up.
No problem - Just let me know if you come up with any other questions.
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Never got a response and I PM'ed. Pretty shitty.
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Never got a response and I PM'ed. Pretty shitty.
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hows the progress on these OP?
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hows the progress on these OP?
I haven't talked to the shop, but I'm hoping to be able to pick them up any day now, and get the ones being powdercoated to that shop. I'm going to give the machine shop a call today. I will post info here.
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Uggh I really don't want to do the work to figure out the coilovers I need for my superlifted truck :( So lazy..
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Uggh I really don't want to do the work to figure out the coilovers I need for my superlifted truck :( So lazy..
Ebay item #360059002020
Half way there as long as your not gonna be jumping your truck you won't need any crazy valving done
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Ebay item #360059002020
Half way there as long as your not gonna be jumping your truck you won't need any crazy valving done
FALSE AND FALSE

Valving has nothing to do with "jumping" your truck and has everything to do with how the shocks will handle. Why spend $800+ and not have them valved to your trucks spec?

The ones you linked are the wrong ones, FOX 2.0 Factory Series Emulsion Coil Over Shock 5/8" Shaft 5" of travel are the correct ones for stock suspension. You still need other parts for the shock to fit, they're not just bolt in.
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FALSE AND FALSE

Valving has nothing to do with "jumping" your truck and has everything to do with how the shocks will handle. Why spend $800+ and not have them valved to your trucks spec?

The ones you linked are the wrong ones, FOX 2.0 Factory Series Emulsion Coil Over Shock 5/8" Shaft 5" of travel are the correct ones for stock suspension. You still need other parts for the shock to fit, they're not just bolt in.
I'm sorry but I believe you have been misinformed about what he was looking for... A SUPERLIFTED TRUCK... And yes to a certain extent your correct but the amount of valving changes and how they will react to your driving conditions 95% of people would never be able to tell the difference! If your building a truck for majority offroad then you wouldn't care about these dumb brackets anyway you would just do custom everything... This modification is for ride purposes and yes some mild offroad but the valve changes won't make much of a difference on a daily driver

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FALSE AND FALSE

Valving has nothing to do with "jumping" your truck and has everything to do with how the shocks will handle. Why spend $800+ and not have them valved to your trucks spec?

The ones you linked are the wrong ones, FOX 2.0 Factory Series Emulsion Coil Over Shock 5/8" Shaft 5" of travel are the correct ones for stock suspension. You still need other parts for the shock to fit, they're not just bolt in.
No clue, cause he's too cool for a long sig!

so true and false*
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No clue, cause he's too cool for a long sig!

so true and false*
He literally posted looking for the coilovers for his SUPERLIFTED truck read post again
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obvi didn't see that, please find it in your heart to forgive me
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Lol don't debate it too hard, I will eventually look up what I ened via someone's previous post about purchasing. I know there's a company I'm supposed to call to get the coilovers and that they know most of what I need. In addition I want stronger coils for a higher ride height and meh..I don't really care about ride quality that much. Never has been good anyways.

I obviously didn't have any info in sig but "suprlifted truck" kind of is a strong hint that I am 4WD and have a 4 inch lift kit haha.
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oh- forgot to ask this...for shipping, do you use USPS? that would be the preferred method...
UPS is total bollocks for shipping into Canada...they find any way they can to slap you with a $90 merchant charge. and believe me, they always find it.
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Uggh I really don't want to do the work to figure out the coilovers I need for my superlifted truck :( So lazy..
I've posted the part numbers (for both Stock & Superlifted trucks) in this very thread, multiple times over the past 22 months since it's been created. I even posted a link to cross reference the extended/collapsed lengths on the Fox coilovers in case people want to use other brands.

The List from my research in October 2011 is here: coilover brackets

I've confirmed this setup works 100% from people that are 'Superlifted' and have this exact setup.

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Why spend $800+ and not have them valved to your trucks spec?
x2

When working with a quality dealer, Fox coilovers will cost little-to-nothing to have them custom valved - so it would be a shame not to dial them in like they were meant to be. If you are not going to set them up correctly, might as well save the cash and get any generic 'off the shelf' basic setup.

But, just to clarify - that Ebay item number & seller that member '07fx4II' posted about (Fox Shocks 2 0" Pro Series 6 5" Travel Emulsion | eBay) custom valves the coilover as part of his sale. He will send you an email asking about your rig.

I know this is the case - not only because he mentions the free valving in the item description (lol) - but also because the Ebay seller 'whthunter' is Sonny, the owner of Downsouth Motorsports. He doesn't sell the Fox setup without the custom valving - because he knows it will lead to problems and future complaints.


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oh- forgot to ask this...for shipping, do you use USPS? that would be the preferred method...
UPS is total bollocks for shipping into Canada...they find any way they can to slap you with a $90 merchant charge. and believe me, they always find it.
Yes, shipping is USPS Priority Mail.


Updates: the bottoms are all done, and the tops just need to be welded, but I should be picking everything up the beginning of next week. I'm not sure if I'm going to make the original target of being able to ship them out during Christmas break, but they should still be getting shipped out by the first week of January.
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Yes, shipping is USPS Priority Mail.


Updates: the bottoms are all done, and the tops just need to be welded, but I should be picking everything up the beginning of next week. I'm not sure if I'm going to make the original target of being able to ship them out during Christmas break, but they should still be getting shipped out by the first week of January.
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Seems like hes on or responds only about once a week so just give him some more time im sure he will repsond to you.
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the reason his inbox is full is he got downgraded from a premium member due to an error. FYI.
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