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Good news on the upper bracket. And it sounds like your preload is at a good starting point ( you may need to adjust for ride height when the body goes back on.

It must be a combination of the spring size and the design of your particular brand control arm.

I have 700lbs and 800lbs eibach springs (never had to install the 800s but I have them)!and there is a major difference on the gauge of the spring steel used in the coil. My 700s were tight I bet the 800s would have worse issues like what your seeing

My recommendation would be:

€ shorten your limit straps
€ try a different UCA (Moog problem solvers or BTF tube UCA may have more clearance)
€ try rotating the spring on the coilovers so the UCA is in the gap of a coil at top out.
€ you might be able to clearance the UCA at the contact point without reducing an major strength ( I would try the other solutions first)
I cant really shorten my limiting straps because the brackets are welded to the frame. Only way I could go about it is to buy shorter straps(custom 7.5")

UCA are Brand New Moogs so they are not going anywhere.

I can try rotating the coil, but what is going to hold it from rotating back(if it even make a difference) they are Round, not oval

Also I am not going to clearance the UCA

I got the cab on today and the UCA JUST miss the coil.

I am going to put the short eyes on once I get my shock jaws and see what I have then

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I cant really shorten my limiting straps because the brakes are welded to the frame. Only way I could go about it is to buy shorter straps(custom 7.5")

UCA are Brand New Moogs so they are not going anywhere.

I can try rotating the coil, but what is going to hold it from rotating back(if it even make a difference)

Also I am not going to clearance the UCA

I got the cab on today and the UCA JUST miss the coil.

I am going to put the short eyes on once I get my shock jaws and see what I have then
Why not just cut the bracket off and weld it higher, only takes a few minutes to do? did you account for stretch too? The straps grow about 1" in the first few months as they are used, so they will need to be adjusted anyway unless you had that accounted for when you welded on the brackets.

Which Moog arms did you get those don't look like the ones i usually see on Rangers. Looks like they have a non replaceable joint and less material in the arm.

As for rotating to coil it can make a big difference. Clearance is clearance don't need a lot.

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Why not just cut the bracket off and weld it higher, only takes a few minutes to do? did you account for stretch too? The straps grow about 1" in the first few months as they are used, so they will need to be adjusted anyway unless you had that accounted for when you welded on the brackets.

Which Moog arms did you get those don't look like the ones i usually see on Rangers. Looks like they have a non replaceable joint and less material in the arm.

As for rotating to coil it can make a big difference. Clearance is clearance don't need a lot.

Good luck.

I just got done doing a COMPLETE tear down and rebuild of the truck including sandblasting and painting the chassis, I am not going to be welding ANYTHING.

Those are the moog lifetime a-arms with replaceable ball joints
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I just got done doing a COMPLETE tear down and rebuild of the truck including sandblasting and painting the chassis, I am not going to be welding ANYTHING.

Those are the moog lifetime a-arms with replaceable ball joints
Shorter straps it is then.
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But I still dont see a need for shorter straps.

That is exactly where the stock shocks allowed the front suspension to droop to
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But I still dont see a need for shorter straps.

That is exactly where the stock shocks allowed the front suspension to droop to
And there lies the problem, limit straps stretch, a lot. They won't stay at 8" for long, it will be fine for a few months, but I would hate seeing a post 6 months from now about topping out over a speed bump and wrecking the front end.

Just make sure to keep an eye on them.
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And there lies the problem, limit straps stretch, a lot. They won't stay at 8" for long, it will be fine for a few months, but I would hate seeing a post 6 months from now about topping out over a speed bump and wrecking the front end.

Just make sure to keep an eye on them.
But unless I am airing the truck out(which I will not be unless on a lift)

They will Never be maxed out
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not 1 person with a pic of stock ranger with the bracket kit and fox coilover?
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not 1 person with a pic of stock ranger with the bracket kit and fox coilover?
Only person I can even think of with coil overs on stock would be Morris. I'm sure he has something in his build thread
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Thank you. I was just curious to see someone else's truck besides mine and brads. First I thought maybe something wacky about my truck but I looked at pics of brads and I could immediately tell he was gonna have the same problem as me. It don't matter, mine works with short eyelets. It is a much tighter fit though.
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I just got done replacing the long eyes w the stock short eyes. Also I used the upper grove for the snap ring to give about 3/8" more clearance over the lower groove. This is the passenger side.

Another note. I had to replace the OEM cv shaft on the passenger side(pitched boot). I got one from Advance/Carquest. The cv boot is a 1/4" smaller in diameter and the boots are shoter( you have 3" of axle between the boots vs 1.25" on the OEM one)

These pics are of the passenger side. I am going to get another cv for the drivers side and move the snap ring up in the second groove on the drivers side as well

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It is 1/2" clearance between the coil and shaft on the passenger side

On the drivers side I have about 3/8 between the cv boot and the lower shock mounting bolt
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This is the drivers side(short eye and snap ring in the lower position)
3/8 between cv boot and lower shock bolt
About 1/2" between coil and cv boot clip
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The difference between Advance/Carquest shaft(bottom) and
OEM (top)
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ya there is no way the extended eyelets work on a stock truck with fox 5 inch travel coilovers. if people out there are running it that way there truck must ride like crap like mine did with no uptravel suspension
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Brad and Chris, check your clearance at full steering lock too, the brake calipers may hit the coils with the shorter eyelets.
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Brad and Chris, check your clearance at full steering lock too, the brake calipers may hit the coils with the shorter eyelets.
I did, I am good
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Are these brackets still able to be made? If so how can I place and order for one?
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When you looked at my pics of them installed, did they look the same as yours when you felt they would ride like poo?

I'm just looking at my pics and trying to compare them to yours. The coil looked right in the middle of everything. The amount of cylinder where the threads are looked like it was equal to the extended eyelet in length. I can see what you mean about an inch or two of travel with the exposed shaft.

As a truck that barely saw off road time maybe I didn't notice the up travel issue. I do kno that the suspension was restricted. The coil hit the the UCA if it was turned properly.

I also agree that it seems that there should be a lot more stock coil'd truck owners should be chiming in. I'll keep looking for the pics.


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it rode ok on the road. but I wasn't hitting no big bumps either really. rite now even with the short eyelets when I cycle the suspension up the shock will almost bottom when squashing the stock bumpstop. and that's with the bumpstop moved back soit contacts the lca sooner than it did when it was factory mounted. I haven't started pounding it still. I think before I do I'm gonna get a little longer bumpstop. at first I thought maybe my truck was **** wacky but brads is just like mine. I'm glad he did his coilover at the same time I did mine. that way I knew it wasn't just my truck. I just wanted to see some other peoples truck picks so that if someone else goes through what we did that they don't waste the 70$ on the extended eyelets and the hastle of trying to figure out why the shock seems so long. just trying to make things easier for others. I didn't take any measurements when I bought mine. now that I have mine I did some measuring of my stock shock and the fox shock just measures too long with the extended eyelet.


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and ya the amount of threads showing above the preload nuts is 1 1/2 inches lower. the amount longer of the extended eyelet. it still ends up the exact same amount of preload.
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This is very interesting to hear people saying they have up travel issues. I'm going to try to see if there is any way to tweak the design to create more room in there. IIRC, there was about a half inch between the coil spring and the frame on mine. Unfortunately, they aren't on right now, but if I get a chance, I'll try to fit a set to my truck again soon and examine everything on it.
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So far I have put 500+ miles on the truck since putting it all back together.
Overall about the same ride as the torsion bars. I need to crank the height a bit more, when I put the plow on the bigger tires rub my flares. Then it needs to be realigned again
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