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the ride height would be adjusted using the pre load correct? and you used standard eyelets? also last question I looked at fox shocks and was recommended the 5" travel, which coiler diameter? Im just wondering if anyone could give me an link of the ideal coilover that would work with my application.
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Fox 2.0 Pro Series 5" Travel Coilover Emulsion "Black Ends" *-FFox 980-02-000-A Ranger Valving
King 2.5" I.D. Springs 8" Length up to 14" length Standard Rates *-King Springs 2.5" SPR25-10-600
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That's correct, preload sets ride height but it also sets ride. The more preload the more rough it'll ride.
I had extended eyelets. There's been some mention of them not fitting properly and some rubbing.

These were the exact ones on my truck.
I think they are the 2.0 ones jetmagee mentioned.

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Hey guys im about to order up all my parts and brackets. Few questions i literally cant find on the internet. Iv done hours of research on this because i know repeated questions are very annoying! lol

1-Is there a complete write-up with step by step instructions out there?

2-If there is not, what angle is the top mount set at? as well as the gussets? I know the bottom mount is lined up with the previous shock mounting holes.

3- Bracket kit, complete shocks, limit straps, is that pretty much it?

4-Lastly, how long should your limit straps be? and where do you mount them? Iv scene many different mounting options but wont that effect the length of your strap? can you buy a strap to short or to long?

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1. there is no instruction write up
2. i figured it is the same as it was with the old shock. it all bolts up so it should align correctly to itslef.
3. paint i guess. i got new bump stops as well.
4. for stock height 8 inch straps have worked for others. you will have to look back at other pictures. get an adjustable clevis so you can change them to your liking.

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3. Once you bolt the upper bracket in place, the adjustable bushing on the top of the coilover will align the coilover to the bottom bracket
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do you guys think a shock cover will hurt the shocks at all? im talking about the fabric ones. they have them for quads but obviously id get main made custom.
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I don't think it'll matter.
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I live in upstate newyork. I run the shock wears. Theyre like 30$ in summit racing catalog. They put so much salt on our roads up here itsridiculous. I have to run them. I bought 14 inch long ones. That way it covers all the threads on the coilover.
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Im pretty positive i bought 14 x 3.5 inch. They kept my coilovers looking like brand new under them. Im thinking about running shockboots on the back shocks. Seems like it would help the seals out a lot.
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Hello, I'm new to the Forum and don't really know anybody here. So with that said hello to everyone! Now to the point. Are this brackets still being made? If so what is the current price and availability?
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yes they are being made by ME00Stepside. They are about 300 shipped. I suggest you read this thread and coilover sadness/ madness thread. Plenty of great info on how to do this build. Welcome aboard
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Anyone who works at a shop who could give me a rough estimate on what the whole conversion would cost? including a lifted spindle swap. Im trying to have it done before i return from this deployment so i can enjoy it during leave.
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Hey guys im about to order up all my parts and brackets. Few questions i literally cant find on the internet. Iv done hours of research on this because i know repeated questions are very annoying! lol

1-Is there a complete write-up with step by step instructions out there?
If your truck is superlifted, or you're planning a superlift, there actually is a complete write-up with specs and step-by-step for install. I know, I spent the better part of a week a couple years ago writing it so the next guy wouldn't have to piece everything together through this and other mind-numbing threads. :)

It's pretty complete with the exception of needing an update to the Daystar bump stops part because they are known to deflect and not do their job protecting your suspension. I'm still searching for the authoritative solution to this and will update with installation instructions once I've done it myself.
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Hey guys, it's been a while since I've been on here, but I wanted to let you know that I've got a batch of these at the powdercoat shop right now. They should all be ready in about a week.

I've been doing these made to order, but I had to change shops, and it's too expensive to have them coated 1 or 2 at a time, so with the last few orders, I had about 5 extra made. They'll be ready to ship sometime next week.

As always, email is the best way to get me.


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Hey all!
So i got my conversion done a week ago now, and im a bit concerned looking at everyone else's up travel that i may have the wrong shocks. My boxes from DSMS are marked 980-02-000, and I made sure to tell them that I do not have a superlift. Im running 600lb springs in case you are wondering.


Just wanted to update after a year of driving on the conversion. My 600lb king springs just kept sagging and sagging to the point where the passenger front was practically in coil bind just to get it to ride height. I finally caved and got a set of eibach 700lb springs. After swapping the springs over, and setting the old ones on the bench, I noticed something
Two completely different coil designs! They are both stamped 600lb, but i doubt they are. Ride is good on the 700s, but i still had to preload them almost 2" to get the height I wanted. Besides that, I have put 30,000 mi on this setup, including a trip to canada, and a ton of hard trail driving, and I absolutley love it! Current state of things
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Bracket Design Suggestion

Hey,

I'm still noodling the bump stop issue.

When you chop the bump stop bracket to clear the coilovers, you effectively relocate the rubber bump stop itself over an inch inboard from its stock location.

This makes things so the lower control arm only half catches the bump stop at full compression. This might be OK when you haven't superlifted. But if you have, it's why the longer Daystar bump stops apparently deflect, don't do their job and result in busted CV joints, and even broken shock shafts, according to others with first hand experience.

You could put a bump stop onto the shock shaft itself, like some have done, but it seems to me it's better to have a solution that protects the shock completely from the forces of bottoming out. Ford had it right by having the frame stop the LCA when it ventured too far.

You could try to stiffen the extended Daystar bump stop, or use a solid spacer with the stock rubber bump stop to minimize chances of it bending and sliding off the inner edge of the lower control arm at full compression. But this doesn't affect the root cause, which is that the bump stop and the surface it's supposed to meet with DON'T LINE UP.

***So here's the idea***

How about doing something to extend the surface of the lower control arm a bit so that it catches the bump stop full on and so it has nowhere to slide off at full compression?

When we install that lower coilover bracket, we're bolting on a pretty nice solid piece of flat steel that could accomplish this purpose rather nicely if it was extended inboard a few inches.

Shawn, what do you think about prototyping this tweak to the design? I'm happy to volunteer my truck as the guinea pig. Let me know what you think it would cost.

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It would be VERY simple to weld a small plate the the LCA if you have the issue of the bumstop not making full contact
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It would be VERY simple to weld a small plate the the LCA if you have the issue of the bumstop not making full contact
That part of the LCA is pretty curvy, in three dimensions. I'd definitely mess it up, but then again I can't weld for s#!t. :-P
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That part of the LCA is pretty curvy, in three dimensions. I'd definitely mess it up, but then again I can't weld for s#!t. :-P
Who ever you had well the gussets to the frame and shock tower, have them weld the LCA
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Who ever you had well the gussets to the frame and shock tower, have them weld the LCA
Yeah, that's one option. But since I'd already be asking someone else to sort out the issue, why not ask the guy who can fix it for everyone else going forward?
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Yeah, that's one option. But since I'd already be asking someone else to sort out the issue, why not ask the guy who can fix it for everyone else going forward?
You are acting like something has to be engineered. a FLAT plate of metal welded to the LCA is all that is needed. Anyone that is capable of welding the gussets to the frame is more than capable of doing this
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You are acting like something has to be engineered. a FLAT plate of metal welded to the LCA is all that is needed. Anyone that is capable of welding the gussets to the frame is more than capable of doing this
I'm not saying you're wrong, Brad.

A lot of guys will probably do just what you suggest and be fine.

I'm trying to save other people the trouble of having to improvise and fabricate stuff that could be added to the standard kit, Shawn willing. The overall coilover mod is plenty expensive and time consuming as it is. Everyone with a Superlift would be better off with a standard solution that's part of the kit, assuming the costs work out. That's why I'm asking the question.
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