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Old Nov 29, 2009
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Coilovers on stock suspension

lets say that one wanted to have coilovers on their non SL stock 4x4 suspension. is there a company that makes coilovers that are that small? if so, where? links?
 
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I was wondering the same thing. I would like to do this but I don't want any lift.
 
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it really should be the same coilover. the upper mount would just need to be higher.

the superlift kit does not add travel, so on a stock truck verses a superlifted truck the amount of travel is the same. Run the same shock and just change the upper mount.
 
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so without having a welder to change the upper mount, and without my name being zabeard...lol...where could i get a shorter coilover
 
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I believe you will need a 2.0" X 5.0" coilover. You could get them in a number of different brands, but I recommend Fox from Off Road Warehouse.

Here: Off Road Warehouse - Shocks Fox Shocks 2.0 Fox Coil-Over Emulsion Shocks Fox Shocks 2.0&quot X 5.0&quot Emulsion Coil-Over #980-99-000-A
 
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you dont want a shorter coilover...

it will have less travel than it does now! let me do some looking but i see no reason why you cant run the same coilover. a shorter coilover than the amount of travel you have now would just bottom out and over extend.
 
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I was under the impression that ORW have picked out a shock for stock suspension trucks...has the same travel as the taller shocks, but they have a shorter overall height.
 
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gotcha....just a thought i was thinking today that ill probably never do lol
 
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i was told that i just need a different coil over for my stock suspension
 
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I'm not sure, but that is what other guys have used on a stock suspension. Call Nick at ORW, he can tell you what you need.
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
you dont want a shorter coilover...

it will have less travel than it does now! let me do some looking but i see no reason why you cant run the same coilover. a shorter coilover than the amount of travel you have now would just bottom out and over extend.
Thinking out loud...

Wouldn't you need a longer travel coilover for a Superlift? You have to account for the drop.

I don't think you need to worry about over-extending the 5.0" coilover because it will only go as far as the upper a-arm will let it. I have more travel in my front suspension then I can utilize because of the upper a-arm and coilover spring hitting, which is where limit straps come into play.
 

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KLC when I talked to nick, he did mention that superlift trucks have a longer shock than stock....being a 2.0 x 6.5 I wish I had a stock shock to compare length's. But I do believe that for a stock truck, you need a shorter shock ie NOT a 6.5 . I would call NICK and ask him though, he's really got alot of info, and will answer any questions regarding this.
 
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currently a stock IFS 98+ ranger can only travel 6.5". as it has been discussed a 1000x the superlift kit and RCD lift kit only lift the truck there is no other advantage. it will not increase travel nor will it improve it.

the CVs and then the balljoints are the limiting factor in the truck. in stock form the truck uses the shocks and bump stops or limit straps.

imo the shocks can be used on a lifted or stock rig because a different shock is just changing the travel . now there are some shocks that will change the mount points which may factor in some. but a typical coilover mounts the same.
 
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Your right the CVs and then the balljoints are the limiting factor in suspension travel of the Ford Ranger. Just a longer shock it not allowing these components to travel any further then they allow on a stock truck. The over all lengths of the shocks including the relocated shock brackets to do the conversion are the same length as the factory shock and is allowing for the same amount of wheel travel, but replaces the factory torsion bar suspension and shock with a race style coil-over front shock. This system also allows for an additional 0"-2" lift to provide increased performance and clearance. With the increase of lift for example the Superlift 3-4" kit uses a lower sub drop to relocate the lower control arms and differential, so it would be necessary to run a longer coil-over in this case.
 
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Not to thread jack but would coil overs help any on a ttb truck?
 
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What is there available to us 2wd coil sprung trucks? I'm sure it's hella-easier to coil-over than you torsion guys. looks like i'm searching over on RPS...
 
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have to cut the coil bucket out and replate it, people do it on DR all the time
 
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Originally Posted by The S-10 Killer
have to cut the coil bucket out and replate it, people do it on DR all the time
yeah, but i'm not looking for putting in huge travel coilovers. I'm sure you can just pop one in there. RPS is full of guys wanting to coilover their edges, but i've seen nothing for the 2wd coils. Dammit....moar research.
 
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yeah, but i'm not looking for putting in huge travel coilovers. I'm sure you can just pop one in there. RPS is full of guys wanting to coilover their edges, but i've seen nothing for the 2wd coils. Dammit....moar research.
I doubt its any easier, probably involves the same thing as the T-bar trucks. Depends whether your putting the coilovers where the springs are or where the shocks are. I dunno.
 
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I doubt its any easier, probably involves the same thing as the T-bar trucks. Depends whether your putting the coilovers where the springs are or where the shocks are. I dunno.
Oh, and i know it is easy to do the swap.
The shocks are inside the coil already.
I just need to see someones work.
 
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Just cut the top shock mount out, smooth the frame, plate it then add a hoop and bolt the coilover up... sounds easy.... right?
 
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Originally Posted by Dangerranger01
Oh, and i know it is easy to do the swap.
The shocks are inside the coil already.
I just need to see someones work.
I figured out a way to do it once.... sounded good... looked like a hack job tho.

more trouble than its worth IMO
 
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i just creamed myself
 
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Just cut the top shock mount out, smooth the frame, plate it then add a hoop and bolt the coilover up... sounds easy.... right?
thats sick!
 
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