NEW TORSION BAR KEYS
#1
NEW TORSION BAR KEYS
hello i just wanted to post about my new torsion bar keys that i just recently installed. it was really pretty easy and i was able to find some for 70 bucks on ebay. the keys were forged just like the ones that ready lift sells but these will save you from paying the 220 bucks that they want for them. i also found out after breaking my 5 ton puller that a ball joint press works just the same as the 150 dollar torsion bar puller.
these are just some things looking back now that i thought others would like to know. also be sure to get an alignment after installing the new keys.
here is the link to the ebay site, shipping was fast and the keys are good quality: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIFT-KIT-FOR...ht_1365wt_1270
a little long but it will save you alot of money
these are just some things looking back now that i thought others would like to know. also be sure to get an alignment after installing the new keys.
here is the link to the ebay site, shipping was fast and the keys are good quality: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIFT-KIT-FOR...ht_1365wt_1270
a little long but it will save you alot of money
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please do some research on this site before you do your next mods. you will be so grateful! if you would have searched for info about those keys here you would not have put them in your truck. as long as you dont crank them more than halfway or so you should be within a reasonably safe zone for your front end components. but PLEASE search for info here before you buy things. not only will you be educated and informed on which products to buy and stay away from you will also find what will work and what is not good for your truck or your safety
#6
Just thought I would post my experience with keys. I read every one saying how bad of an idea it was to use them. When i asked around no one actually had any evidence of cv's and parts wearing out faster then usual. The people who were warning me had never actually used them.
I bought a set of cheap ebay keys and installed them + alignment (around $70 for the keys). Yes my ball joints and cv's are on crazy angles. I have had them installed for 2 years and over 80,000km's, shocks spaced to gain more lift (they were holding it from going any higher). I am a mechanic and i check my front end for play and wear every oil change. My truck has 135,000 km's on it and still all original front end parts.
Based on experience I would do it again in a heart beat.
I bought a set of cheap ebay keys and installed them + alignment (around $70 for the keys). Yes my ball joints and cv's are on crazy angles. I have had them installed for 2 years and over 80,000km's, shocks spaced to gain more lift (they were holding it from going any higher). I am a mechanic and i check my front end for play and wear every oil change. My truck has 135,000 km's on it and still all original front end parts.
Based on experience I would do it again in a heart beat.
#7
i am a mechanic also. my truck along with two friends have the stock keys maxed out and we all have had issues with many front end components wearing out prematurely several times on each of our trucks. i replaced the upper control arms on my truck when i bought it 2 years ago and my driver side upper ball joint is done in again. thats in under 35000 km.
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Just thought I would post my experience with keys. I read every one saying how bad of an idea it was to use them. When i asked around no one actually had any evidence of cv's and parts wearing out faster then usual. The people who were warning me had never actually used them.
I bought a set of cheap ebay keys and installed them + alignment (around $70 for the keys). Yes my ball joints and cv's are on crazy angles. I have had them installed for 2 years and over 80,000km's, shocks spaced to gain more lift (they were holding it from going any higher). I am a mechanic and i check my front end for play and wear every oil change. My truck has 135,000 km's on it and still all original front end parts.
Based on experience I would do it again in a heart beat.
I bought a set of cheap ebay keys and installed them + alignment (around $70 for the keys). Yes my ball joints and cv's are on crazy angles. I have had them installed for 2 years and over 80,000km's, shocks spaced to gain more lift (they were holding it from going any higher). I am a mechanic and i check my front end for play and wear every oil change. My truck has 135,000 km's on it and still all original front end parts.
Based on experience I would do it again in a heart beat.
And yes, it makes a big difference on how you drive your truck.
#13
cranking the stock keys and straining the bars is better then not cranking the bars and replacing keys to lift the truck...
now ive heard it all!
LMAO
put keys in your truck, you can actually loosen the bars if they lift it too tall, get a softer ride and the same effect, or like said above, max out your bars, strain everything and ride like a tank. 100% your call. Hahah.
now ive heard it all!
LMAO
put keys in your truck, you can actually loosen the bars if they lift it too tall, get a softer ride and the same effect, or like said above, max out your bars, strain everything and ride like a tank. 100% your call. Hahah.
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cranking the stock keys and straining the bars is better then not cranking the bars and replacing keys to lift the truck...
now ive heard it all!
LMAO
put keys in your truck, you can actually loosen the bars if they lift it too tall, get a softer ride and the same effect, or like said above, max out your bars, strain everything and ride like a tank. 100% your call. Hahah.
now ive heard it all!
LMAO
put keys in your truck, you can actually loosen the bars if they lift it too tall, get a softer ride and the same effect, or like said above, max out your bars, strain everything and ride like a tank. 100% your call. Hahah.
#16
cranking the stock keys and straining the bars is better then not cranking the bars and replacing keys to lift the truck.
now ive heard it all!
LMAO
put keys in your truck, you can actually loosen the bars if they lift it too tall, get a softer ride and the same effect, or like said above, max out your bars, strain everything and ride like a tank. 100% your call. Hahah.
now ive heard it all!
LMAO
put keys in your truck, you can actually loosen the bars if they lift it too tall, get a softer ride and the same effect, or like said above, max out your bars, strain everything and ride like a tank. 100% your call. Hahah.
Cranking your stock keys, or putting aftermarket keys that need less cranking to get to the height of cranking your stock keys, is all doing the same thing: you are twisting your bars further than the factory setting to lift your truck.. They bars are no less strained because the aftermarket key doesn't have to be cranked as much to get lift. The ride will not be smoother because the adjustment bolt doesn't have to be cranked in as far. The bar being twisted further than stock ride height and the control arms being at a steeper angle is the reason for the harsher ride.
The point that's been made here and in the 5,000 other threads about aftermarket keys is that the same height you can achieve with stock 98-07 keys is the max that you want to go. There is no need to go to aftermarket keys just so your bolt isn't cranked in as much, and if you get aftermarket keys and crank those up, you're really going to be straining your suspension.
#17
I'm not really sure what you're talking about with the creaking and popping. I had my bars cranked before going to coilovers, and it never made a sound. It rode like crap, but quiet crap.
#18
You obviously don't understand the relationship of keys, bars and ride height as much as you think you do.
Cranking your stock keys, or putting aftermarket keys that need less cranking to get to the height of cranking your stock keys, is all doing the same thing: you are twisting your bars further than the factory setting to lift your truck.. They bars are no less strained because the aftermarket key doesn't have to be cranked as much to get lift. The ride will not be smoother because the adjustment bolt doesn't have to be cranked in as far. The bar being twisted further than stock ride height and the control arms being at a steeper angle is the reason for the harsher ride.
The point that's been made here and in the 5,000 other threads about aftermarket keys is that the same height you can achieve with stock 98-07 keys is the max that you want to go. There is no need to go to aftermarket keys just so your bolt isn't cranked in as much, and if you get aftermarket keys and crank those up, you're really going to be straining your suspension.
Cranking your stock keys, or putting aftermarket keys that need less cranking to get to the height of cranking your stock keys, is all doing the same thing: you are twisting your bars further than the factory setting to lift your truck.. They bars are no less strained because the aftermarket key doesn't have to be cranked as much to get lift. The ride will not be smoother because the adjustment bolt doesn't have to be cranked in as far. The bar being twisted further than stock ride height and the control arms being at a steeper angle is the reason for the harsher ride.
The point that's been made here and in the 5,000 other threads about aftermarket keys is that the same height you can achieve with stock 98-07 keys is the max that you want to go. There is no need to go to aftermarket keys just so your bolt isn't cranked in as much, and if you get aftermarket keys and crank those up, you're really going to be straining your suspension.
#20
im coil spring, and i dont like T-bar much, but i get what your trying to say. theres logic to both situations, and it depends what your looking for.
moral of the story, buy a coilover conversion kit and ditch the bars.
#21
Agreed! (And you can click on the link in my sig that'll take you to the thread about how to get brackets )
#22
Out of curiosity, I'm going to ask the obvious question: did you change your shocks at the same time you put the keys in?
I'm not really sure what you're talking about with the creaking and popping. I had my bars cranked before going to coilovers, and it never made a sound. It rode like crap, but quiet crap.
I'm not really sure what you're talking about with the creaking and popping. I had my bars cranked before going to coilovers, and it never made a sound. It rode like crap, but quiet crap.
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