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i need some advice for lifting my truck

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i need some advice for lifting my truck

i have a 4x4 01 ext cab, this spring i'll be getting a 3in bl and 31's, my plan is new shackles, and add aleaf in the rear,so if i'm right that would be around 2 1/2-3in lift, now my main question is lifting the front ifs. would i need to buy bigger steering knuckles? or could i install coil springs with a spacer to get 3in of lift? so what do i need for 2 1/2-3in lift up front without spending alot of money

so far my parts list is

3in bl
2in lift shackles
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31x10.50x15 tires
 
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One last thing you could do , but with a body lift you don't need to do anything else to get a 31 under there,, 2 inch shackle and add a leaf will only get you 2 inches,, add a leaf don't get you anything,
so for the front you can do the torsion twist and get it almost as high as the back,,

with 2 inch suspension lift like that , and a 3 inch body lift , 33's would go , but than you need to change the gears in the differentials,
 
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If you're doing a BL and shackles/AAL then I would go bigger than a 31" tall tire. I'd go with a 33" tire instead. Pete, with 33's he wouldn't need to change the gears. He'd be fine with 33's and 3.73's or 4.10's. As for the front though... max out your t-bars. It'll give you a firmer ride but it will be a FREE mod and will make it look great.
 
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your truck is 4x4 right? so how are you installing spring spacers on your coil springs when you have torsion bars? im just confused if you are going coil over or not?
 
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I think he is confused about what he has in the front. Your only options for the front are cranking your bars or a superlift without spending over $2k.
 
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33s would fit with just a BL.. and it should be roughly level if your tbars are already maxed.
 
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my tbars are maxed and the rear is about an inch lower, i know i don't have coil springs on the front, what i ment by what i said is could i put coil springs on the truck and give it lift like that, but from what some of yall are saying you can't put springs on a torsion bar truck right, i'm pretty set on 31's for now since my dad might end up driving my truck for a while near the end of this year. so superlift is the only way to go then? thanks guys
 
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yeah coil springs and the torsion bar setup are two different types of suspesnion..
so the only option of lifting the front is the superlift

what size tires do you have now??

its just that 31s tend to look a little small on bodylifted trucks, imo
 
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My truck fit 33s with just a tbar maxxed with no rub
 
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Originally Posted by Billy4x420
yeah coil springs and the torsion bar setup are two different types of suspesnion..
so the only option of lifting the front is the superlift

what size tires do you have now??

its just that 31s tend to look a little small on bodylifted trucks, imo
i have 235's right now, i seen all the pics of trucks on here with 3in bl with 33's, to me they looks a little to stuffed for my tatse lol i want a little more space between the tire and wheel well
 
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someone else mentioned in another thread, that if your t-bars are maxed, you can buy new bolts for them, longer ones, and just use them to get more lift from the bars... but i haven't talked to anyone who has done it, it's just one of those, i heard my brother's girlfriend's sister's cousin did it to his truck...

anyone tried to heat torsion bars with a torch, and give them an arc for lift?
 
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well to each his own i suppose!!

theres a bodylifted ranger running around town here with his winter setup (255s) so just shy of 31s and it is just screaming for bigger tires.. little tooo much space in the wheelwells...

then again there is a member on here (Mykael) with a BL and 31 BF Ats and he seems to be in pretty good proportion
 
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Originally Posted by --weezl--
someone else mentioned in another thread, that if your t-bars are maxed, you can buy new bolts for them, longer ones, and just use them to get more lift from the bars... but i haven't talked to anyone who has done it, it's just one of those, i heard my brother's girlfriend's sister's cousin did it to his truck...

anyone tried to heat torsion bars with a torch, and give them an arc for lift?
yeah i read that on here the other night that you could use longer bolts, i don't really like the way it rides with the tbars maxed but it's a free lift so no complanits haha
 
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Originally Posted by --weezl--
someone else mentioned in another thread, that if your t-bars are maxed, you can buy new bolts for them, longer ones, and just use them to get more lift from the bars... but i haven't talked to anyone who has done it, it's just one of those, i heard my brother's girlfriend's sister's cousin did it to his truck...
i heard that as well..

however i wouldnt consider it being an actual method to gain extra lift.. you can only do so much twisting before you start to damage components.. just max out your current setup and see if your still comfortable with the ride quality..

also i highly doubt bending the bars would accomplish "lift"
 
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Originally Posted by Billy4x420
well to each his own i suppose!!

theres a bodylifted ranger running around town here with his winter setup (255s) so just shy of 31s and it is just screaming for bigger tires.. little tooo much space in the wheelwells...

then again there is a member on here (Mykael) with a BL and 31 BF Ats and he seems to be in pretty good proportion
that red truck looks about right to me,it's one of those things you need to see in person to really see how it looks,
 
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Originally Posted by Billy4x420
i heard that as well..

however i wouldnt consider it being an actual method to gain extra lift.. you can only do so much twisting before you start to damage components.. just max out your current setup and see if your still comfortable with the ride quality..

also i highly doubt bending the bars would accomplish "lift"
i'm thinking something like arcing springs, but backwards... i'll draw a pic, give me 5 minutes

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Originally Posted by --weezl--
i'm thinking something like arcing springs, but backwards... i'll draw a pic, give me 5 minutes

i don't see how bending them would lift the truck, if you bent them they wouldnt be long enough to work then
 
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it's a matter of where you bend them... the closer to the keys, the less of a difference in length it is going to make over all... it wouldn't make a big difference, compared to cranking, it's just changing the angle... i don't know what difference it would make between bending and maxing though... or over maxing (new bolts)
 
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Wow.

Talk of doing a coil conversion on sla and bending torsion bars...

Hell if you wanted to, you could convert it over to coils, but you'd have to fabricate everything. It could be done, and hey, you'd get rid of the stump anchor torsion bars. I mean, it's stock set-up on some 4x4's... like a kj... I'd prefer it compared to torsion bars I guess.

As for the torsion bars... No, I'm too tired to try to think about that one right now. Nevermind.
 
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Do you have #1 bars?
 
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Originally Posted by steveo1271
i have 235's right now, i seen all the pics of trucks on here with 3in bl with 33's, to me they looks a little to stuffed for my tatse lol i want a little more space between the tire and wheel well
If you wanna see stuffed go check out my truck with 33's and no lift LOL IMO 31's look rediculous with a 3'' BL. 32's might not look too bad. I ran 3" BL and coil spacers on my 93 and there was plenty of open space between tires and fender. Now that I look at my 07 with 31's, I feel there is too much open space.
 
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i'm sure 33's and no lift would be stuffed,31's is good for me i like the gap they have with the 3in bl, yeah i got #1 bars
 
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can someone tell me what the different numbered bars are? please...
 
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i'm sure 33's and no lift would be stuffed,31's is good for me i like the gap they have with the 3in bl, yeah i got #1 bars
That's gonna be one heck of a gap.

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can someone tell me what the different numbered bars are? please...
F, B, and 1. Weakest to strongest. I think there is one below F but not sure.
 
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You know what you could do to make it a lot easier, By a Superlift. I am sure there is one for sale on this forum. Check it out.
 
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