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torsion bars...
ok this is prolly gonna dissapoint me but i have to ask...
i put the the superlift 4" suspension lift on my 01 edge and well as you all know the torsion bars hang down freakishly low. pretty much stock height when the rest of the truck got lifted. anyway, what i want to know is.....is there any way at all to raise them? they kill my ground clearance. i know i could just get bigger tires but i dont want to yet.any help or ideas are appreciated greatly...
i put the the superlift 4" suspension lift on my 01 edge and well as you all know the torsion bars hang down freakishly low. pretty much stock height when the rest of the truck got lifted. anyway, what i want to know is.....is there any way at all to raise them? they kill my ground clearance. i know i could just get bigger tires but i dont want to yet.any help or ideas are appreciated greatly...
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Originally Posted by shadow905
ok this is prolly gonna dissapoint me but i have to ask...
i put the the superlift 4" suspension lift on my 01 edge and well as you all know the torsion bars hang down freakishly low. pretty much stock height when the rest of the truck got lifted. anyway, what i want to know is.....is there any way at all to raise them? they kill my ground clearance. i know i could just get bigger tires but i dont want to yet.any help or ideas are appreciated greatly...
i put the the superlift 4" suspension lift on my 01 edge and well as you all know the torsion bars hang down freakishly low. pretty much stock height when the rest of the truck got lifted. anyway, what i want to know is.....is there any way at all to raise them? they kill my ground clearance. i know i could just get bigger tires but i dont want to yet.any help or ideas are appreciated greatly...
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the superlift drops the lower control arms AND the tbar mount on the frame.
also the tbars go all the way threw the lower control arm, so if you raise the mount, it will be at a big angle and wont go threw the arm properly.
Now there was a company that made an "adapter" that mounts to the arm and keeps the tbar in the stock location, but it was made for vehicles with the tbars only attached to the end of the arm...
Im sure something could be fabbed up, but by the time your done, you could have afford to sell the superlift and buy a RCD...
maybe you could contact RCD and see about buying accouple pieces to turn your superlift into a RCD lift, or find a cheap RCD lift kit used that missing some unimportant parts
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also the tbars go all the way threw the lower control arm, so if you raise the mount, it will be at a big angle and wont go threw the arm properly.
Now there was a company that made an "adapter" that mounts to the arm and keeps the tbar in the stock location, but it was made for vehicles with the tbars only attached to the end of the arm...
Im sure something could be fabbed up, but by the time your done, you could have afford to sell the superlift and buy a RCD...
maybe you could contact RCD and see about buying accouple pieces to turn your superlift into a RCD lift, or find a cheap RCD lift kit used that missing some unimportant parts
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well i dont really want to do a body lift. i dont like the way it looks and dont feel like going through the headache to make everything looking stock again. so my question now is...
for those of you sayin....put coils under there....what would i need? even if i did get parts from an rcd lift....can you tell me what i would need?
for those of you sayin....put coils under there....what would i need? even if i did get parts from an rcd lift....can you tell me what i would need?
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for an eye-eye setup like the RCD you need an upper shock mount, and a lower shock mount, and a coilover that fits.
if you can find a pin-top shock that will accept coil over springs, you will only need the lower shock mount.
re-inforce the stock shock tower, or build a shock hoop dependin on what size shock you choose.
i cant say for certian that the RCD coilover would be a drop-in for a SL kit, as they use different drop bracketry, but it might be a good place to start your research.
if you can find a pin-top shock that will accept coil over springs, you will only need the lower shock mount.
re-inforce the stock shock tower, or build a shock hoop dependin on what size shock you choose.
i cant say for certian that the RCD coilover would be a drop-in for a SL kit, as they use different drop bracketry, but it might be a good place to start your research.
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Originally Posted by gumby
for an eye-eye setup like the RCD you need an upper shock mount, and a lower shock mount, and a coilover that fits.
if you can find a pin-top shock that will accept coil over springs, you will only need the lower shock mount.
re-inforce the stock shock tower, or build a shock hoop dependin on what size shock you choose.
i cant say for certian that the RCD coilover would be a drop-in for a SL kit, as they use different drop bracketry, but it might be a good place to start your research.
if you can find a pin-top shock that will accept coil over springs, you will only need the lower shock mount.
re-inforce the stock shock tower, or build a shock hoop dependin on what size shock you choose.
i cant say for certian that the RCD coilover would be a drop-in for a SL kit, as they use different drop bracketry, but it might be a good place to start your research.
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http://realiftsusp.com/
get in touch with these guys.. see what they can do for you..
nm.. I actually read and someone has contacted them.. im a tard
get in touch with these guys.. see what they can do for you..
nm.. I actually read and someone has contacted them.. im a tard
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dude... did you even read under the pic????
and I understand the point of the thread/discussion. I offered a solution.. but it had been discussed already, my bad. To get rid the tbars means rcd like everyone has said.
the issue with the relocator is the ranger has RBV style tbars which go all the way through the lower control arm. You could fab up a relocator. you would have to cut the bar aft of the control arm, fab up something to stabilize the bar through the lca, put the relocator on, then reconnect the two peices of the tbars. presto. use some solid stock. problem here.. cutting the bar messes it up.. so yeah thats no good.. next idea..
Or RCD, but the stabilizer bars still hang down a ways, not as far as the superlift, but pretty far, and from what I understand the rcd stabilizer arms are some not so sturdy aluminum. Not nearly as strong as the tbars.. So then you run into issues again, You could fab a skid plate for the rcd arms but then you may as well saved your money. Or you could go custom and widen the lca and have a new mounting point.. but then money $$, may as well have sased it..
And jury rigging some coilovers into the superlift kit seems to me to be an inherently bad idea.. but its not my truck.. Id be curious how it turns out, so if you try it. post it up..
and I understand the point of the thread/discussion. I offered a solution.. but it had been discussed already, my bad. To get rid the tbars means rcd like everyone has said.
the issue with the relocator is the ranger has RBV style tbars which go all the way through the lower control arm. You could fab up a relocator. you would have to cut the bar aft of the control arm, fab up something to stabilize the bar through the lca, put the relocator on, then reconnect the two peices of the tbars. presto. use some solid stock. problem here.. cutting the bar messes it up.. so yeah thats no good.. next idea..
Or RCD, but the stabilizer bars still hang down a ways, not as far as the superlift, but pretty far, and from what I understand the rcd stabilizer arms are some not so sturdy aluminum. Not nearly as strong as the tbars.. So then you run into issues again, You could fab a skid plate for the rcd arms but then you may as well saved your money. Or you could go custom and widen the lca and have a new mounting point.. but then money $$, may as well have sased it..
And jury rigging some coilovers into the superlift kit seems to me to be an inherently bad idea.. but its not my truck.. Id be curious how it turns out, so if you try it. post it up..
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Originally Posted by icb12
dude... did you even read under the pic????
and I understand the point of the thread/discussion....
and I understand the point of the thread/discussion....
- most guys here werent involved in that discussion on the other forum
- the pic you posted hardly shows that the t-bar is still installed unless one knows what they are lookin for(see first point)
- why would you think an inside joke from another forum would be found funny over here?
Originally Posted by icb12
...the issue with the relocator is the ranger has RBV style tbars which go all the way through the lower control arm. You could fab up a relocator.... snip'd
Originally Posted by icb12
...Or RCD, but the stabilizer bars still hang down a ways, not as far as the superlift, but pretty far, and from what I understand the rcd stabilizer arms are some not so sturdy aluminum. Not nearly as strong as the tbars....
Originally Posted by icb12
And jury rigging some coilovers into the superlift kit seems to me to be an inherently bad idea.....
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hahaha.. sweet jebus.. Im NOT getting tipped over.. He suggested it was retarded.. which I had already posted originally.. I was merely asking.. I wasn't being a smart ***.. I was actually asking if he read that..
I don't get the last month comment.. whatever.. no biggy. last month this month.. who cares really..?
You would probably know better.. you've actually got an rcd.. so yeah.. if you say they are stainless steel.. then ****.. they're stainless steel. I don't have one, don't want one, so yeaiah.. your the pro. My point was. .that you still have those stainless-steel compression struts that hang down.. that was it. and yes Iv fractured a tbar. I walked five miles till we could get cell phone coverage and call a buddy to come get us. Water bar in logging road was a little deeper than anticipated...
And I offered my opinion.. retrofit away. Im saying I wouldn't do it. If I wanted coilovers I woulda got the rcd in the first place. Or sell the superlift and save some. If you want to do the fab work and put in coilovers why not sas?? But if someone does with the ifs.. cool.. props. Id like to see it. Like I said before.
And yes I realize most people weren't privy to the "other" conversation(s)... and I didn't realize you couldn't see the tbar.. I saw it fine. Besides given my caption "keep your tbars" and the coilover obviously in the pic.. I figured it would have been clear.. shucks.. you can see the label on the tbar..
and I thought it was funny.. apparently you didn't.. sorry.. from now on Ill ask you if you think things are funny before I post them.. I wasn't aware its an inside joke... why would it be? so what if it was posted somewhere else.. how much other crap on this forum was posted somewhere else first?? honestly.. tbars w/ coilover.. stupid... IMO its also funny.. I guess im sorry you didn't think so..
soo get your panties out of a bundle.. lighten up.. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything, I was offering my opinion and adding my discussion to the thread and I tried to make a lil funny.. big f##king mistake apparently..
I don't get the last month comment.. whatever.. no biggy. last month this month.. who cares really..?
You would probably know better.. you've actually got an rcd.. so yeah.. if you say they are stainless steel.. then ****.. they're stainless steel. I don't have one, don't want one, so yeaiah.. your the pro. My point was. .that you still have those stainless-steel compression struts that hang down.. that was it. and yes Iv fractured a tbar. I walked five miles till we could get cell phone coverage and call a buddy to come get us. Water bar in logging road was a little deeper than anticipated...
And I offered my opinion.. retrofit away. Im saying I wouldn't do it. If I wanted coilovers I woulda got the rcd in the first place. Or sell the superlift and save some. If you want to do the fab work and put in coilovers why not sas?? But if someone does with the ifs.. cool.. props. Id like to see it. Like I said before.
And yes I realize most people weren't privy to the "other" conversation(s)... and I didn't realize you couldn't see the tbar.. I saw it fine. Besides given my caption "keep your tbars" and the coilover obviously in the pic.. I figured it would have been clear.. shucks.. you can see the label on the tbar..
and I thought it was funny.. apparently you didn't.. sorry.. from now on Ill ask you if you think things are funny before I post them.. I wasn't aware its an inside joke... why would it be? so what if it was posted somewhere else.. how much other crap on this forum was posted somewhere else first?? honestly.. tbars w/ coilover.. stupid... IMO its also funny.. I guess im sorry you didn't think so..
soo get your panties out of a bundle.. lighten up.. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything, I was offering my opinion and adding my discussion to the thread and I tried to make a lil funny.. big f##king mistake apparently..