33" or 35's...im so stuck on what i want...
#27
Originally Posted by Redneckstone
lets see here John your also missing the front valance dont you think that might help?
And he said something about "stuffing" in the back like that was a problem also and so far I've had no problems there also.
I did modify my front flare mounting a bit as well -- moving them back about a 1/2" towards the rear of the truck so they fit flush to the back of the fender lip -- that's necessary also. But I can run the front up to the bump stop now (I have to take the sway bar off to get it there easily) and no rub lock-to-lock.
Body lifts are problematical though since the frame is no higher. Ben's truck rubs against the frame because the middle of the tire is right at frame level. With a suspension lift, your frame is "up" the tire further and rubbing is not an issue.
My point was you can do things to make them fit.
Edit: I wondered what the "F" initial in my middle name was for -- my parents never told me...(I see why now...)
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Originally Posted by zabeard
i say 33s, and if you go with the 15x10 there is no way a 35 will fit you wont beable to turn very sharp and u will have to trim the valance
I had a 3" body and 35's. Never rubbed. And i could turn lock to lock. And i've replied to hundreds of body lift threads about this, I don't think anyone reads anymore. I had the 3.0 and 4.10's. You'll be fine. Especially if you get glass fenders like I did. O i had 15x10's also.
If you get 33's, you will look in the mirror and say, man what was i thinkin, 33's are grocery getters. I should have gotten 35's.
When i got my 35's, I told myself i should have gotten 37's.
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Originally Posted by south_ga_84
N3ELZ-How much total lift do you have?
If you add that much block, you NEED traction bars -- I have the lighter James Duff bars (that mount over the axle).
I had the front maxxed out (t-bars) but it was too harsh on the street so I let them down about an inch and that was better. There is a slight "rake" from front to back again (nose slightly down) but with the lift and all it's hardly noticeable and the ride and handling are SO much better, lol.
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Originally Posted by n3elz
Easily trimmed regardless. I just trimmed mine a bit more than most, lol.
And he said something about "stuffing" in the back like that was a problem also and so far I've had no problems there also.
I did modify my front flare mounting a bit as well -- moving them back about a 1/2" towards the rear of the truck so they fit flush to the back of the fender lip -- that's necessary also. But I can run the front up to the bump stop now (I have to take the sway bar off to get it there easily) and no rub lock-to-lock.
Body lifts are problematical though since the frame is no higher. Ben's truck rubs against the frame because the middle of the tire is right at frame level. With a suspension lift, your frame is "up" the tire further and rubbing is not an issue.
My point was you can do things to make them fit.
And he said something about "stuffing" in the back like that was a problem also and so far I've had no problems there also.
I did modify my front flare mounting a bit as well -- moving them back about a 1/2" towards the rear of the truck so they fit flush to the back of the fender lip -- that's necessary also. But I can run the front up to the bump stop now (I have to take the sway bar off to get it there easily) and no rub lock-to-lock.
Body lifts are problematical though since the frame is no higher. Ben's truck rubs against the frame because the middle of the tire is right at frame level. With a suspension lift, your frame is "up" the tire further and rubbing is not an issue.
My point was you can do things to make them fit.
But wait, how does Jey not rub here with a BL I DONT understand.
Originally Posted by 034x4
Wrong. Good try.
I had a 3" body and 35's. NEVER RUBBED. And i could turn lock to lock. And i've replied to hundreds of body lift threads about this, I don't think anyone reads anymore. I had the 3.0 and 4.10's. You'll be fine. Especially if you get glass fenders like I did. O i had 15x10's also.
If you get 33's, you will look in the mirror and say, man what was i thinkin, 33's are grocery getters. I should have gotten 35's.
When i got my 35's, I told myself i should have gotten 37's.
I had a 3" body and 35's. NEVER RUBBED. And i could turn lock to lock. And i've replied to hundreds of body lift threads about this, I don't think anyone reads anymore. I had the 3.0 and 4.10's. You'll be fine. Especially if you get glass fenders like I did. O i had 15x10's also.
If you get 33's, you will look in the mirror and say, man what was i thinkin, 33's are grocery getters. I should have gotten 35's.
When i got my 35's, I told myself i should have gotten 37's.
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#33
Hey man, I didn't say that second quote -- that I remember, lol...I must have blacked out...oh wait, it was 034x4 that said that.
With regards to the first quote, I don't have a body lift, lol. I have a suspension lift. Even then, the "trimming" or "relocating" was necessary. The BL problem is rubbing on the frame, from what I can see. No simple way around that either.
I've also posted EXTENSIVELY and some would say excessively on what I did with my truck modifications and it's all on here somewhere...
With regards to the first quote, I don't have a body lift, lol. I have a suspension lift. Even then, the "trimming" or "relocating" was necessary. The BL problem is rubbing on the frame, from what I can see. No simple way around that either.
I've also posted EXTENSIVELY and some would say excessively on what I did with my truck modifications and it's all on here somewhere...
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Ok my bad on the second qoute but I still stand on the 35s will still rub with a BL. Not trying to get into a argument here and jack his thread but again with 33s and rubbing you have to trim alot with 35s Jey unless you have a freak truck???
If I remember correctly Ben (Ranger1) had to trim, now if you had to as well Jey then thats a different story. They way you came off to me though was you didnt have to trim anything.
If I remember correctly Ben (Ranger1) had to trim, now if you had to as well Jey then thats a different story. They way you came off to me though was you didnt have to trim anything.
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Me, not trim anything? I posted this up the page a bit if you're talking about me...
Easily trimmed regardless. I just trimmed mine a bit more than most, lol.
And he said something about "stuffing" in the back like that was a problem also and so far I've had no problems there also.
I did modify my front flare mounting a bit as well -- moving them back about a 1/2" towards the rear of the truck so they fit flush to the back of the fender lip -- that's necessary also. But I can run the front up to the bump stop now (I have to take the sway bar off to get it there easily) and no rub lock-to-lock.
Body lifts are problematical though since the frame is no higher. Ben's truck rubs against the frame because the middle of the tire is right at frame level. With a suspension lift, your frame is "up" the tire further and rubbing is not an issue.
My point was you can do things to make them fit.
Edit: I wondered what the "F" initial in my middle name was for -- my parents never told me...(I see why now...)
And I agree with you that 35's maybe should rub on a BL -- but don't you think it depends on the tire? Agressive treads with big side lugs sure do (as in Ben's case) -- but I think many "AT" styles with their "narrower" treads might not.
By the way, tread width can be the same on two tires and one can stick out more than the other. Most mud tires have OFFSET tread where one side is IN, where the other side of the tire sticks OUT. You measure across there maybe its 10" let's say. But if you measure from how far it sticks OUT on one side, to how far it sticks OUT on the other side, you might get 11 or even 12 inches.
Whereas an AT will have fairly even tread edges that don't stick out so much to rub.
So, it may be that the "mystery" of BL rub is in the tire design. Don't know, but it's a possibility.
Originally Posted by N3ELZ
Easily trimmed regardless. I just trimmed mine a bit more than most, lol.
And he said something about "stuffing" in the back like that was a problem also and so far I've had no problems there also.
I did modify my front flare mounting a bit as well -- moving them back about a 1/2" towards the rear of the truck so they fit flush to the back of the fender lip -- that's necessary also. But I can run the front up to the bump stop now (I have to take the sway bar off to get it there easily) and no rub lock-to-lock.
Body lifts are problematical though since the frame is no higher. Ben's truck rubs against the frame because the middle of the tire is right at frame level. With a suspension lift, your frame is "up" the tire further and rubbing is not an issue.
My point was you can do things to make them fit.
Edit: I wondered what the "F" initial in my middle name was for -- my parents never told me...(I see why now...)
By the way, tread width can be the same on two tires and one can stick out more than the other. Most mud tires have OFFSET tread where one side is IN, where the other side of the tire sticks OUT. You measure across there maybe its 10" let's say. But if you measure from how far it sticks OUT on one side, to how far it sticks OUT on the other side, you might get 11 or even 12 inches.
Whereas an AT will have fairly even tread edges that don't stick out so much to rub.
So, it may be that the "mystery" of BL rub is in the tire design. Don't know, but it's a possibility.
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True, but then you sacrifice that additional inch of "lift", lol. Doesn't seem like much, but in the right situation it can mean the difference between being stuck and keeping moving.
But that's probably being too much a purist. I would find it hard to go back to 33's now, but that's a "mental" thing (yes, people tell me all the time I'm "mental"...) where it would just bothering me knowing I'd lost "height", lol.
But that's probably being too much a purist. I would find it hard to go back to 33's now, but that's a "mental" thing (yes, people tell me all the time I'm "mental"...) where it would just bothering me knowing I'd lost "height", lol.
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well i wont have the stock bumper soon either...well it sagged cuz of a cobination, i beat the hell outa both leafs and shocks...but i could compress my stockers when i took em out with my pinky.
deavers are in future works as well
well guess im just gona get 33's for now..
dam did this poste frign blow up haha
deavers are in future works as well
well guess im just gona get 33's for now..
dam did this poste frign blow up haha
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If you get 33's, i will forever make fun of you andy. Don't settle for something less than you want. and if you didn't really want 35's, you wouldn't have asked.
My b/l and 35's only rubbed the fenders after 1.5 revolutions of the wheel. I did no trim anything i just replaced them with fiberglass fenders and had clearance for 37's. They did not rub the frame at all, and they did not come close anywhere.
EDIT: here is the best picture i have of all the clearance i have.
My b/l and 35's only rubbed the fenders after 1.5 revolutions of the wheel. I did no trim anything i just replaced them with fiberglass fenders and had clearance for 37's. They did not rub the frame at all, and they did not come close anywhere.
EDIT: here is the best picture i have of all the clearance i have.
#47
Originally Posted by 034x4
Wrong. Good try.
I had a 3" body and 35's. Never rubbed. And i could turn lock to lock. And i've replied to hundreds of body lift threads about this, I don't think anyone reads anymore. I had the 3.0 and 4.10's. You'll be fine. Especially if you get glass fenders like I did. O i had 15x10's also.
If you get 33's, you will look in the mirror and say, man what was i thinkin, 33's are grocery getters. I should have gotten 35's.
When i got my 35's, I told myself i should have gotten 37's.
I had a 3" body and 35's. Never rubbed. And i could turn lock to lock. And i've replied to hundreds of body lift threads about this, I don't think anyone reads anymore. I had the 3.0 and 4.10's. You'll be fine. Especially if you get glass fenders like I did. O i had 15x10's also.
If you get 33's, you will look in the mirror and say, man what was i thinkin, 33's are grocery getters. I should have gotten 35's.
When i got my 35's, I told myself i should have gotten 37's.
i know that it wil rub has to my 33s almost rub the rear part of the front fender, its like 1/2 inch.
anyway ever truck is different, allot of times i wish i had 35s but then agian i fill up 2-3 times a week, i think ill stick to 33s, grocery getters or not.
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