i was recently looking for a new set of tires for the range, and i decided this time that i might follow up with the rest of the crowd and try out the BFG AT's because everyone seems to be pleased with them.. but i was looking around and saw a set of Maxxis Buckshot Mudders (i believe the tires that ZaBeard has on his blue ranger) and i seem to like them a lot and their aggressive tread, since the price isnt much different i was wondering what your opinions are.. im looking for a 305/70-R16 tire and i have a set of 16x8 ProComp 1069's http://www.4x4cyberstore.com/website/pcw_1069.html
all help is greatly appreciated guys, thanks
tyler

 

by the looks of your profile you already bought the A/T's?

well if not, here is brians setup, 35" buckshots, on 16" rims. dont remember the actual metric size.

 

well those are the tires i was leaning to and cancelled my ordered on them numerous times b/c i wasnt sure.. but what differences are between them.. tread wear and capability wise

 

capability, your better off with a m/t, buckshots would be your choice. but since you live up north, dont know how much snow you see, but the bfg a/t is one of the best snow tires around.the bfg's are none to get 50-60k miles easy, and the buckshots are probably around 45-55k. But youd want to get newer ones before that anyways because youll loose the offroad capapbity with lesser tread.

 

personally if you do ALOT of street driving and bearly any offroading get the BFG a/t's BUT if you love the humm of mudders and want the mudders get the buck shots they are just great tires. BUT they have one draw back if you have alot of sand dont get them....

 

where i am in PA we tend to get a good amount of snow every year and i like to off-road as much as a i can and get to some parks and get some good meets in.. and if the tires get about the same tread wear i see myself leaning towards the buckshots

 

you wont get the same tread wear. not close. expect 10k-20k difference At LEAST.

 

are you saying the BFG's would last longer?

 

not even a doubt to me or anyne here.

 

I love my BFG AT's. Great on the road in the rain and mud. Here in FL we don't have snow (curse this stupid state) so I can't tell you about that but I've been muddin a few times with them and rarely get stuck. Oh yeah the 4x4 helps :)
Awesome on sand too, far superior to mud tires on sand. Mud tires grip the sand and shoot it out thus diggin you down deeper. AT's roll right over it if you don't step on it. Awesome tread life so far I can barely tell they've warn and I've put at least 20k on them (not sure exactly how much) including several mud and trail trips.

 

i like my buckshots but i bought them not really worring about wear... ill let ya know how long they last me.. lol

brian says they will last 50,000 so we will see

 

dont forget the bridgestone dueler a/t revo, great a/t tire also.

 

i dont think u could go wrong with either tire.ones just a m/t and a/t just decide what yall do more of.

 

^^ yea exactly...kinda hard to compare 2 different styles of tire...you either need to pick a/t or m/t..

..its like buying a bike, and comparing a mountainbike and a bmx bike


but im not gona lie the a/ts are nice, but i would like a set of mudders to throw on also

 

good tire but so far im not too impressed with the wear...

 

Mudders compared to A/T's...

Which is faster a gt mustang or a 4 cyl xl ranger??

 

In my experience the BFG AT does very well in the snow.. I would expect similarly designed ATs to do well as well.

However I've heard the BFG MTs are absoloutely horrible in the rain.. and not especially great in the snow, certianly not as good as the ATs. I would expect similarly designed MTs to be ... well, similar.


My opinion is that MTs should be reserved for an off road only application. Meaning if you really need/want MTs, mount them on a cheap set of steel wheels and use them for off road use only. Then keep the all-seasons or all-terrains mounted on your street wheels for street use. Plenty of people do this, including Neil and Adrian. Both have commented that the setup works well for them.

 

Having 2 sets of wheel and tires is too expensive for most of us.

I HAD a set of bfg m/t's that were perfectly fine in the rain.

 

my buckshots work great in the rain too.

oh and jey the ranger won.

 

I would think that by saving wear on the MTs you'd save the cost of a cheap set of steel wheels in a BIG hurry. But then I guess that depends on how much street time your truck sees. Mine sees a lot..
I've heard folks say otherwise, some quite enthusiastically.

 

Colin, the enthusiastic people who dislike the performance of a mud tire in the rain are probably trying to over-drive it and requesting too much street performance from an offroad tire.

 

The number one complainer I was thinking of was Dave, of Dave & Julie fame. I think his use and driving style is pretty close to mine. And I don't think he has any reason to mis-represent anything to me. The only difference is I think I see more snow than he does. Under his recommendation, I will never run a dedicated MT tire, like the BFG MT as my primary street tire on a daily driver.

Personally I would not put a set of MT or dedicated off-road tires on a daily driver that sees more than 20% road use. But that's me.. A set of cheap, or maybe even used 15" steel wheels for a second set might be just the ticket. And it might help him save a few bux by fitting tires for a 15" wheel instead. I hear both selection and pricing is better for 15" wheel-sized tires.

 

I agree with you on several levels. I don't run a mud tire on my daily driver anymore, merely an All-Terrain for year-round performance, although we don't see much snow around here. My main reason for not running a M/T daily is the cost/wear issue. I can't really justify the higher cost for half the mileage. The Mud Kings I have on my Toyota, however, are just the thing for occasional street and heavy offroad use.

 

I drove my 35 1250 M/T's everyday on my ranger for a good 6-7 months. Never had a single problem in wet weather conditions.

Only time i did was when i used too much skinny pedal on a hill, but that was on purpose.

 

My point exactly! ..Well, one of them. I still contend that an AT is a better tire for street use. I'm not sure they'd bother making or selling such a tire if it weren't; everyone would buy MTs. But the economics of the matter is the other point. I still think you'd be able to pay for a set of cheap wheels real fast w/ what you'd save by not running your expensive, soft MTs on pavement.

Add Ben (Ranger1) to the list of people that run two sets of tires. I just saw his post of photos of 35's mounted on what look like cheap-*** steel rock crawlers..