Anybody heard about this? Procomp tire problems?
#1
10-24-2005
Anybody heard about this? Procomp tire problems?
I was just checking to see if Cooper still made Procomp tires (they do) and I found this very disturbing page on problems with Procomp tires and 4 Wheel Parts (the store).
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff115390.htm
I hadn't heard any of this? Any comment? I love Cooper as a company, so it's sad to hear that they may be making a defective product. However, they are contract manufacturing to Procomps specifications so the blame may need to be "spread around" -- don't know.
Most everyone I know has had only good experiences with Cooper branded tires -- I wonder what's going on with these Procomps? I don't know if this is just a small collection of horror stories, or evidence of a serious problem.
Certainly, I'm not impressed with 4 Wheel Parts as depicted in these either! Down the page a ways on this link is more allegations regarding 4 Wheel Parts.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff112163.htm
Edit: Another link: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff104095.htm
And: http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Bu...anyID=13081573 (Better Business Bureau report for the last 3 years -- they got a "C")
Cooper makes a TON of tires under different brand names -- look at this list from a lawsuit against Cooper over a problem years ago with bad "carcass" moldings that were patched and used instead of discarded.
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/legal/cooptire.html
This was not unlike the problems Firestone ran into in some respects. In actual practice, very few tires were involved in the Cooper problem -- HOWEVER, the carcasses were used in a BUNCH of their brands and contract tire manufacturing and so the problem cropped up across a wide range of tires.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff115390.htm
I hadn't heard any of this? Any comment? I love Cooper as a company, so it's sad to hear that they may be making a defective product. However, they are contract manufacturing to Procomps specifications so the blame may need to be "spread around" -- don't know.
Most everyone I know has had only good experiences with Cooper branded tires -- I wonder what's going on with these Procomps? I don't know if this is just a small collection of horror stories, or evidence of a serious problem.
Certainly, I'm not impressed with 4 Wheel Parts as depicted in these either! Down the page a ways on this link is more allegations regarding 4 Wheel Parts.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff112163.htm
Edit: Another link: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff104095.htm
And: http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Bu...anyID=13081573 (Better Business Bureau report for the last 3 years -- they got a "C")
Cooper makes a TON of tires under different brand names -- look at this list from a lawsuit against Cooper over a problem years ago with bad "carcass" moldings that were patched and used instead of discarded.
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/legal/cooptire.html
This was not unlike the problems Firestone ran into in some respects. In actual practice, very few tires were involved in the Cooper problem -- HOWEVER, the carcasses were used in a BUNCH of their brands and contract tire manufacturing and so the problem cropped up across a wide range of tires.
Last edited by n3elz; 10-24-2005 at 05:12 PM.
#7
10-24-2005
#8
10-24-2005
Originally Posted by n3elz
Yeah, wow...that's too easy -- I'll leave it alone... 
Originally Posted by 04lvl2
I think he was asking about the tires not you lol.
I think my brain went dead at the moment LOLOLOLOLOL
oh man that was to funny i nearly died laughing!!!
#11
10-24-2005
#12
10-24-2005
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Escondido, CA
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Never had any problems with ProComp tires...but what I should say is.... THAT I WOULD NEVER BUY PROCOMP TIRES or DEAL WITH 4WPW AGAIN....
A friend of mine ran the ProComp MTs and then after lifting his Jeep Cherokee he purchased the ProComp Xterrains.... While the traction is not bad, the rubber compound wears out too quickly and you have to rotate the tires properly due to the directional design of the tire.
While 4WPW may give you great deals on tires such as 4 for the price of 3; they have pissed me off more times than I would care to remember.... I have decided to stay away from 4WPW, purchase Jeep and Ranger parts online, and tires from manufactures such as BFG, GY, Pirelli, and Yokohama.
OR 4x4
A friend of mine ran the ProComp MTs and then after lifting his Jeep Cherokee he purchased the ProComp Xterrains.... While the traction is not bad, the rubber compound wears out too quickly and you have to rotate the tires properly due to the directional design of the tire.
While 4WPW may give you great deals on tires such as 4 for the price of 3; they have pissed me off more times than I would care to remember.... I have decided to stay away from 4WPW, purchase Jeep and Ranger parts online, and tires from manufactures such as BFG, GY, Pirelli, and Yokohama.
OR 4x4
#14
10-24-2005
Well, BFG and the other major brands have had recalls as well for major defects -- so this is not a big thing from the standpoint of HAVING a defect.
Since Procomp provides the tire warranty (not Cooper) and 4 Wheel Parts the extended warranties, the "customer service" problem appears to be on them. Then it would be up to them to seek a remedy from Cooper. That's just the way OEM manufacturing works.
And yes, M/T's never last like A/T's -- it's just the way it is. Tires with really good traction on rocks and the like have soft, flexible compounds. Tires which wear really well have harder compounds. Many tires intended for offroading are softer by design.
Since Procomp provides the tire warranty (not Cooper) and 4 Wheel Parts the extended warranties, the "customer service" problem appears to be on them. Then it would be up to them to seek a remedy from Cooper. That's just the way OEM manufacturing works.
And yes, M/T's never last like A/T's -- it's just the way it is. Tires with really good traction on rocks and the like have soft, flexible compounds. Tires which wear really well have harder compounds. Many tires intended for offroading are softer by design.
#15
10-24-2005
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PUEBLO, CO
Posts: 3,753
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by optikal illushun
expect a mud tires to last more than 25-30,000 is silly...
I beg to differ. swampers, yes but others, most of the time theyll last a bit longer than that...
I never really lked pro comp tires NOR 4wp. my dad had procomp ATs on his suburban (still does actually...) and they only have like 25k and they are cooked.
good find john.
#16
10-24-2005
Join Date: May 2005
Location: MI
Posts: 3,200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#17
10-24-2005
#18
10-24-2005
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 2,782
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have pro comp all terrains (33x12.5x15) and havent had any problems with them, you can see a line that goes around the sidewall, but i dont know what its from, either when i went 4 wheeling and got in a rut and it rubbed it or what, but i have put 20k miles + on mine and havent had one problem....
Rocky
Rocky
#20
10-24-2005
#22
10-24-2005
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Westerly, RI
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#23
10-25-2005
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: East Helena, Montana
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A number of tire companies make tires and place one or more other names on them instead of the company's name. I suspect that the quality of those tires is not on par with the quality of the tires that have the company's name on them. I stay away from those "off-brands". Cooper tires, with the Cooper name on them, are real popular in Montana, and I've never heard any complaints about them.
#24
10-25-2005
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#25
10-25-2005
Join Date: May 2005
Location: crystal river,fl
Posts: 1,778
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i like the procomps i had 35 xterrains they were awsome.my little brother just got the 35 a/t there nice.i just order my girl 31 procomp a/t's all from 4 wheel parts they give me good deals fast and free shipping.so i have never had a problem with 4 wheel parts and i have bought a crap load of stuff from them.
