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n/m i found the mufflers lol ,and wish i didnt ......which one sounds the deepest?
Where in GA are you?

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I just put a "slowmaster" 10 series on my 4.0 and I have a noticeable gain, but then again I went to 2.5"pipe after the cats. Now my roomate put a flow 40 on his '03 f-150 with the 5.4., other than the muffler everything is stock and his truck had some gains, however small the gain was there.
When I had a Flow 40 on my truck, I gained nothing but sound over stock. I couldn't tell that I lost power, but I certainly gained none.

The difference is design.

This is what the inside of a Flowmaster looks like.



Its like the exhaust is running an obstacle course. It goes in the muffler, hits a baffle, slows down, turns, hits another baffle, slows down turns. The design isn't good for flow. But at the same time, its what give Flowmaster its distinct sound.

Borla on the other hand you can see through.



Explain to me how a Flowmaster is better than Borla for performance.

As I said earlier, if you just want sound, get a Flowmaster. If you want performance go Borla.

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i have a flowmaster super 40 on mine that is single in dual out and when i can afford it i am gonna switch over to a magnaflow
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[QUOTE=Riceman;1429587]Where in GA are you?


winston/douglasville
you?
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When I had a Flow 40 on my truck, I gained nothing but sound over stock. I couldn't tell that I lost power, but I certainly gained none.

The difference is design.

This is what the inside of a Flowmaster looks like.



Its like the exhaust is running an obstacle course. It goes in the muffler, hits a baffle, slows down, turns, hits another baffle, slows down turns. The design isn't good for flow. But at the same time, its what give Flowmaster its distinct sound.

Borla on the other hand you can see through.



Explain to me how a Flowmaster is better than Borla for performance.

As I said earlier, if you just want sound, get a Flowmaster. If you want performance go Borla.

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Gibson is better than Flowmaster as well IMO.

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Almost a straight flow design, the exhaust only has to turn once.
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Yep...Flowmaster is designed basically like a OEM muffler. It is all about the thru style mufflers when going for performance.
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winston/douglasville
you?
Ellijay, I'm almost in Tennessee.

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what ever blows ya'lls skirts up. I didn't notice any loss with my flow....and didn't get any gain with the borla, so to each his own. Like I said before they can affect cars differently.
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I like mufflers from wal mart
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I agree with ya Griggs.



It's freakin' exhaust...we've got 4 effin cats...how much improvement do we really expect on a Ranger?? Bump the pipe size up a little, USE A TAILPIPE and the results are just like stock and probably better. Dumped you'll lose low-end. I put tailpipes back on the truck a few weeks back and noticed a definate increase in low-end WITH A 'slowmaster'.

Gains are so minimal on these trucks in regards to exhaust work, that I much rather take a slight hp hit for it to actually sound good, and not like garbage(like a gibson).
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I agree with ya Griggs.



It's freakin' exhaust...we've got 4 effin cats...how much improvement do we really expect on a Ranger?? Bump the pipe size up a little, USE A TAILPIPE and the results are just like stock and probably better. Dumped you'll lose low-end. I put tailpipes back on the truck a few weeks back and noticed a definate increase in low-end WITH A 'slowmaster'.

Gains are so minimal on these trucks in regards to exhaust work, that I much rather take a slight hp hit for it to actually sound good, and not like garbage(like a gibson).
LOL at you saying dumping loses low and and gibson sounds bad.
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Flowmaster is going to by far deeper. Alot of people say that the Borla is going to give better performance.
Yup. if you want deep sound Flows are the way to go, but I have Borla, not loud, but love it.
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LOL at you saying dumping loses low and and gibson sounds bad.
My dumping views are strictly based on ACTUAL RESULTS on MY TRUCK.

My Gibson views are based on ACTUALLY HEARING IT ON A 4.0L SOHC RANGER AND COMPARING IT TO MINE WITH A SUPER 40. Plus....is a friggin' opinion.

And again, I'm still believing that sound > performance on a Ranger, because no matter what you do, performance differences are very minimal. I'd rather get the same hp and actually sound good, than to get 1hp more and sound like ***.
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My dumping views are strictly based on ACTUAL RESULTS on MY TRUCK.

My Gibson views are based on ACTUALLY HEARING IT ON A 4.0L SOHC RANGER AND COMPARING IT TO MINE WITH A SUPER 40. Plus....is a friggin' opinion.

And again, I'm still believing that sound > performance on a Ranger, because no matter what you do, performance differences are very minimal. I'd rather get the same hp and actually sound good, than to get 1hp more and sound like ***.
I'd rather run that same 15.9 quarter mile, as long as the *****es be hoppin on mah dikz.



I did mine for MPG. I've gained around 1mpg average after doing exhaust and the air box mod. Since the exhaust has paid for itself.

And did you dyno your truck with and without a dump?
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magnaflow= Good sound, better performance over stock.
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magnaflow= Good sound, better performance over stock.
Werd, and still pretty budget minded too.
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buying one in 2 weeks... split between super40/44 or magnaflow muffler...
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