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Mrfomoco Dec 5, 2020 08:23 AM

PO303, P0304 and P0305
 
2003 Ranger Edge 3.0 auto with 198k.
Was running fine and at stop sign it started running BAD with CEL on. I was only a couple miles from home so I was able to limp home. It was running TERRIBLE!

This AM I went to Autozone to get them to pull the codes and PO303, P0304 and P0305 came up along with a few others. Misfires in 3, 4 and 5. I suspect the other codes are caused by the misfires.
Any ideas where to start before I start throwing parts at this thing?
I am the original owner so I know it’s history.
Thanks in advance.

RonD Dec 5, 2020 10:12 AM

Welcome to the forum

When did you get gasoline last?

Reads like some "bad" gas
Takes 1 to 2 days before the water in the bad gas settles out and causes running issues, can happen sooner just depends on how much water was in that gas
Water and gasoline can't "mix" and water is heavier than gasoline, so when vehicle sits the water settles to the bottom of tank and thats where fuel pump sucks in "the gas"
So if it happened just after vehicle sat for a few hours......................

Its the "all of a sudden" thing that pointed at this

And maybe a fuel pump issue, it can/will happen suddenly

Mrfomoco Dec 5, 2020 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by RonD (Post 2182101)
Welcome to the forum

When did you get gasoline last?

Reads like some "bad" gas
Takes 1 to 2 days before the water in the bad gas settles out and causes running issues, can happen sooner just depends on how much water was in that gas
Water and gasoline can't "mix" and water is heavier than gasoline, so when vehicle sits the water settles to the bottom of tank and thats where fuel pump sucks in "the gas"
So if it happened just after vehicle sat for a few hours......................

Its the "all of a sudden" thing that pointed at this

And maybe a fuel pump issue, it can/will happen suddenly

I don’t think it was bad fuel. My wife and I both got gas at the same time and from the same pump and her vehicle is doing fine. I have ran it for a few days with that fuel with no ill effects. It only gets driven about 12 miles / day 3-4 days week now. It has an easy life now. This truck should last me for a long long time.

RonD Dec 5, 2020 12:55 PM

Cylinders 3, 4, and 5 don't have much in common, 3 and 4 do share 1 coil in the coil pack
1 and 5 share another coil in the pack
Firing order for 3.0l is 1-4-2-5-3-6

The cam sensor failing can cause misfires but there for sure would be Cam sensor failure codes along with misfire codes

The sudden onset is the main thing to focus on, a crack in coil pack could explain it but long shot
A broken larger vacuum hose as well, or hose popping off

And, of course, computer failure but that's way way down on the list

Mrfomoco Dec 5, 2020 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by RonD (Post 2182110)
Cylinders 3, 4, and 5 don't have much in common, 3 and 4 do share 1 coil in the coil pack
1 and 5 share another coil in the pack
Firing order for 3.0l is 1-4-2-5-3-6

The cam sensor failing can cause misfires but there for sure would be Cam sensor failure codes along with misfire codes

The sudden onset is the main thing to focus on, a crack in coil pack could explain it but long shot
A broken larger vacuum hose as well, or hose popping off

And, of course, computer failure but that's way way down on the list

Hose popping off was actually one of my thoughts. I had it happen once before. I even stopped on my way to get the the diagnosis this AM hoping that was it when I thought about it. It was not the same one as before. :-(

The codes are:
the ones mentioned in the OP and...
PO128 coolant thermostat. (Below operating temp)
P0316 misfire on startup
P0171 system too lean
P0300 random misfire


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