3.0? or 4.0?
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Uh I am gonna throw my hat in the ring for the 3.0. Granted when I bought my truck it was advertised as a 4.0 and by the time I drove that far it wasnt a deal breaker. Turns out I like the 3.0. I dont have a use for a 4.0 and in central PA a 2.3 isnt gonna cut it on some of the hills. And just a weird observation but there seems to be a lot less 3.0 issues than 4.0 issues on this forum
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If you get the truck loaded up mine as well get the biggest engine. She may be thirsty but she's the best. I have had no issues involving the engine. The 3.Slo is useless can hardly keep up with me and I've driven a couple 2.3s and love how they are nutty little revvers. But the 2.3 has no ***** like the 4.GO
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I've had 3.0, 4.0OHV and 4.0SOHC. I like the 4.0 OHV the best. More grunt down low where a truck needs it. Simple, cheap parts. 3.0 was ok but lacked power to tow much. 4.0SOHC has good midrange and topend power, but lacks grunt where I need it. I had the 3.0 in a 2wd and both 4.0s in 4wd. All got about the same fuel mileage.
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Partly right. 4.0 > 3.0, but I wouldn't say the 3.0 is useless, mine has no problem cruising comfortably at 80mph, and gets around 20mpg. I only had it loaded up once so far, about 900 pounds of scrap metal in the bed, and it still did 80 fine. It's the cheaper option, and gets the job done. If my truck was my only vehicle, I would have sprung for the 4.0(actually I would sprung for a non-ranger). But for a cheap workhorse truck, the 3.0 ain't bad.
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I am gonna say 3.0... I've read of far more problems with the 4.0
Also, changing the plugs on a 4.0 is a royal PITA. You can't even fit your hand in between the heater box and the valve cover.
I've heard many a story about people beating the hell out of their 3.0 and still not being able to make it break. Well, they sometimes blow the head gaskets or crack a head, but at least you don't have to worry about the bottom end.
I see more 4.0 engines for sale on CL, almost all have some sort of problem, usually a knock in the lower end. Haven't seen a 3.0 Vulcan with a major problem on CL yet though.
Either way, if you blow it up and decide you want to go bigger, a 302 is only a couple of steps away... gonna need to know that it might be a bit tighter fitting.
Also, changing the plugs on a 4.0 is a royal PITA. You can't even fit your hand in between the heater box and the valve cover.
I've heard many a story about people beating the hell out of their 3.0 and still not being able to make it break. Well, they sometimes blow the head gaskets or crack a head, but at least you don't have to worry about the bottom end.
I see more 4.0 engines for sale on CL, almost all have some sort of problem, usually a knock in the lower end. Haven't seen a 3.0 Vulcan with a major problem on CL yet though.
Either way, if you blow it up and decide you want to go bigger, a 302 is only a couple of steps away... gonna need to know that it might be a bit tighter fitting.
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I've only driven 4.0ohv's and the 3.0, of the two I prefer the 3.0. The 4.0 didn't feel much if any stronger than the 3.0, and I think the gearing is to blame. The 3.0's I've driven were 4.10 or 3.73's equipped, not sure what the 4.0's had, but it had to be 3.27's or something close.
The 3.0 is a great engine, keep the rev's up and it performs well. I live in very mountain laden country and my truck has no problem pulling steep grades loaded or unloaded.
The 3.0 is a great engine, keep the rev's up and it performs well. I live in very mountain laden country and my truck has no problem pulling steep grades loaded or unloaded.
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I am gonna say 3.0... I've read of far more problems with the 4.0
Also, changing the plugs on a 4.0 is a royal PITA. You can't even fit your hand in between the heater box and the valve cover.
Either way, if you blow it up and decide you want to go bigger, a 302 is only a couple of steps away... gonna need to know that it might be a bit tighter fitting.
Also, changing the plugs on a 4.0 is a royal PITA. You can't even fit your hand in between the heater box and the valve cover.
Either way, if you blow it up and decide you want to go bigger, a 302 is only a couple of steps away... gonna need to know that it might be a bit tighter fitting.
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I've had 2 different Ranja power plants. The 4.slow Oh Holy Vajesusimslow and the 3.slow.
My Explorer runs the 4.0 OHV and is an auto with stupid low gearing. it's slow, steady, and torquey enough to go almost anywhere I want. Only time I didn't have enough juice was in a mud hole (dumbass) that was no bigger than a puddle (look in the build thread. There is a pic...)
My RubiRanja or D-Ranged also ran a 4.0 OHV backed by a 5 speed and almost stupid low gearing in it. When the truck was bone stock (yes, there was a time) the power was fine. When I started ----ing with it, bye bye power. The lift and 35's were not too bad, about 15mpg and super steep hills would be about 35-45 on the interstate. 37s and 456s?? Ha! 11-13mpg, overheating issues, 10-30mph on steep hills, but I could run normal speed on flat ground in cool tempatures or in stop and go and have no issues. With 33's and 456s, did pretty good everywhere but the interstate as 70 mph were turning some high Rpms. Mileage went to 17-18mpg
Now my little red Ranja has the 3.0 and a manual. Bone stock other than the gangster exhaust the PO installed. 26 mpg with the old rear end (assume 3.73) and about 20 with the new. It's just a 2wd reg cab so it really isn't a comparison to the 4.0HV in D above. It does have enough power to get out of its own way, but I doubt it would pull a loaded car trailer up a steep incline. It's an awesome little motor for what it is.
I also have had a 2wd 4.0 5speed that was quick. Like 14-15s in the 1/4 mile. That's cool and all, but if I were buying a truck to haul the mail, it'd be a lightning, not a Ranger.
For DD Little Truck Duties that Rangers and S10s and so forth I would say any of the 3 engines are fine. Is one better than the other? Probably. Is it worth the price difference if there is one? Not likely
My Explorer runs the 4.0 OHV and is an auto with stupid low gearing. it's slow, steady, and torquey enough to go almost anywhere I want. Only time I didn't have enough juice was in a mud hole (dumbass) that was no bigger than a puddle (look in the build thread. There is a pic...)
My RubiRanja or D-Ranged also ran a 4.0 OHV backed by a 5 speed and almost stupid low gearing in it. When the truck was bone stock (yes, there was a time) the power was fine. When I started ----ing with it, bye bye power. The lift and 35's were not too bad, about 15mpg and super steep hills would be about 35-45 on the interstate. 37s and 456s?? Ha! 11-13mpg, overheating issues, 10-30mph on steep hills, but I could run normal speed on flat ground in cool tempatures or in stop and go and have no issues. With 33's and 456s, did pretty good everywhere but the interstate as 70 mph were turning some high Rpms. Mileage went to 17-18mpg
Now my little red Ranja has the 3.0 and a manual. Bone stock other than the gangster exhaust the PO installed. 26 mpg with the old rear end (assume 3.73) and about 20 with the new. It's just a 2wd reg cab so it really isn't a comparison to the 4.0HV in D above. It does have enough power to get out of its own way, but I doubt it would pull a loaded car trailer up a steep incline. It's an awesome little motor for what it is.
I also have had a 2wd 4.0 5speed that was quick. Like 14-15s in the 1/4 mile. That's cool and all, but if I were buying a truck to haul the mail, it'd be a lightning, not a Ranger.
For DD Little Truck Duties that Rangers and S10s and so forth I would say any of the 3 engines are fine. Is one better than the other? Probably. Is it worth the price difference if there is one? Not likely
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I've owned a 5.0 Exploder, a 4.0 2WD Ranger, and a 3.0 4WD Ranger.
IMO, the 5.0 is the way to go, but since we're talking about engines available in the Ranger, here's my thoughts:
3.0 sucks for towing or accelerating, but it seems to be way more durable. I have 250K miles on mine, and it's still going strong.
4.0 is far better for it's performance, easy to work on, and still pretty solid, but I haven't seen any get the same life that a lot of the 3.0's get.
I'll second Vohanson's statement about the mileage between the 5.0 and the 3.0, as I average 1 MPG more out of my 3.0 Ranger than I did with my 5.0 Exploder, but it had much smaller tires. With the same tires, I'm sure the 5.0 would get better mileage.
IMO, the 5.0 is the way to go, but since we're talking about engines available in the Ranger, here's my thoughts:
3.0 sucks for towing or accelerating, but it seems to be way more durable. I have 250K miles on mine, and it's still going strong.
4.0 is far better for it's performance, easy to work on, and still pretty solid, but I haven't seen any get the same life that a lot of the 3.0's get.
I'll second Vohanson's statement about the mileage between the 5.0 and the 3.0, as I average 1 MPG more out of my 3.0 Ranger than I did with my 5.0 Exploder, but it had much smaller tires. With the same tires, I'm sure the 5.0 would get better mileage.
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What Mods would that be ?? Mine has 296K on it and I'm thinking of doing some mods, prolly rebuild the lower end (heads done already) and the trans.
I also have access to a 4.0 from a 2000 Explorer. HIgh mileage so I need to build either one. I'm thinking the 4.0 is the way to go, it's already got more HP.
I also have access to a 4.0 from a 2000 Explorer. HIgh mileage so I need to build either one. I'm thinking the 4.0 is the way to go, it's already got more HP.
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What Mods would that be ?? Mine has 296K on it and I'm thinking of doing some mods, prolly rebuild the lower end (heads done already) and the trans.
I also have access to a 4.0 from a 2000 Explorer. HIgh mileage so I need to build either one. I'm thinking the 4.0 is the way to go, it's already got more HP.
I also have access to a 4.0 from a 2000 Explorer. HIgh mileage so I need to build either one. I'm thinking the 4.0 is the way to go, it's already got more HP.
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