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well i will either us 87 or 93 octane... theirs one in between that shell sells but i have poor memory... but yall think 87 mileage and performance and 93 performance would be a good setup just use 93 for when i really wanna play
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I get the best mileage with my 87 octane performance from bama chip. i also have torque for 89 and race for 91. those both give me about 2 mpg less economy
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Yeah thats what Rapala said too, he gets the best with perf too
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thanks bout time someone said something hopefully well get a few more opinions so i can get a better idea of what i want it set for when i order it
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Is it hot in Texas in march lol, I really have no clue. If I don't get the tuner I'll get the e-fan.[/QUOTE]


The efan is a great mod and it can be done for under 50 bucks. I just got a taurus fan and a thermosat kit fromt autozone. I notice a very little bit more power just driving around normal but when the summer came and i turn on my AC it make a huge difference.
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Yessick I dont know if it helps much but im ordering my X-cal 3 in a few days and Im getting both e85 economy and performance and then 87 economy.
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yeah Ive pretty much have all the bolt ons... Ive noticed the biggest gain in performance with the combination of pullies and the 87 torque tune... the truck feels more torquey to me, and with the firmer shifts... I have yet to use the 93 performance tune because Ive been a little low on funds and trying to save as much as possible... Ive heard on RPS that with the 93 octane performance tune I can pick up a full second in the 1/4 over the 87 performance tune. I will try and dig it up over there if I can. But if I were to drive the speed limit at 65 on the highway I get roughly 24-26 mpg... basically babying it not going high up in the rpms... now if I do 75-80mpg I get 23.. thats with hitting the 5k on the tach merging with traffic and passing people, I was impressed with that to be honest. This weekend Ill be doing some tests, Ill take off my tunes adn the CAI and see what I get from there, with just the pullies adn then I will add the tunes on and I will post up the differences... it will be mostly hwy miles and I will be as descriptive as I can in the post... but overall the truck just feels different you can tell and feel that something is different about it... I think Dave can agree with me on this one when we went to the benson drag strip... was running in the 10.7's all night against other rangers with CAI, exhaust, new plugs and wires adn pullies, they were in the low to mid 11's if i remember correctly. But this is performance wise... I will do my tests this weekend and Ill post up the differences either tomorrow or sunday when I get the chance.




*Notice the winter mix is still at the gas stations so it may not be as high as the mpgs that I got during the summer... but the differences between no tunes and running tunes should still be the same*
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well i already ordered my x-cal 3 i just hope Wayne (( granite guy )) ships it out soon... and i got 87 mileage and 87 performance and 93 performance when i really want to play so well see how it all goes when i get it and ill be doing the pulleys and e fan in a few weeks so well see how much of a difference it truly makes when i add those
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Only 23 with a stick? That seems kinda low. How big of a difference did the tstat make?
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Only 23 with a stick? That seems kinda low.
What should it be?
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Gas wont be staying around $2 gal. Thanks to Obama.
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What should it be?
Idk lol I just figured it would be higher, Rapala said he gets that with his auto.
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Gas wont be staying around $2 gal. Thanks to Obama.
Thats great and irrelevant to my thread
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Well soon I'll be able to tell you what happened to mileage and reliability with the underdrive pulley's. I also have a Screamin Demon coil, wires and plugs coming so that'll help MPG too. They should arrive Monday, so I'll see what I get that following week.
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I was going to get the SD coil pack but I don't think thats worth the 100 bucks in my eye. Maybe at the 100k tuneup I'll get that but not now.
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That's the only reason I got it. I'm at 95k. But the hotter spark and bigger gap is supposed to be better for mileage. So we'll see. Tuner is probably coming next month or something.
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I was going to get the SD coil pack but I don't think thats worth the 100 bucks in my eye. Maybe at the 100k tuneup I'll get that but not now.
The SD coilpack will be way less reliable than the OEM coilpack due to lack of SAE reliability tests!

And Trent, you know my feelings about UDPs!!



Read this article on problems with UDPs, and how they can void Ford's
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By Joe Bradley, Manager of Ford's Warranty Analysis department

"As you might expect from the company that formed SVT, the Ford Motor Company has many employees who are true performance enthusiasts -- folks who love and care for their personal high-performance vehicles as much as or more than the next guy or gal. Many of us, in fact, are true "weekend warriors" who can be found at the local drag strip or road course on Saturdays and Sundays, and tinkering under the hood during weekday evenings getting ready for the next event. As automotive enthusiasts, we certainly can appreciate performance machinery.

That said, as Ford employees we all want to do the right thing for our customers as well as for the Ford Motor Company. That is precisely why it is important to have a concise, easy-to-understand policy with regard to Ford warranty administration. For vehicles that are not modified, the Ford warranty policy is clear the company backs its products within the guidelines of the new vehicle limited warranty, which is designed to protect the customer from defects in factory workmanship and/or material.

However, in the case of vehicles that have been modified, one needs to understand that the modifications may affect warranty coverage. This is simply because any damage or failure of new vehicle components or systems that was caused by modifications to the vehicle are not defects in "factory supplied" workmanship or material.

To illustrate this point, let's consider a small sample of vehicle modifications and see how they might affect factory components or systems: When it comes to changing the factory engine drive pulleys, there are some powertrain system and component concerns that deserve consideration. One would be any electrical and/or charging system problems that arise because of reduced alternator operating speed caused by the installation of underdrive pulleys. After all, the performance and serviceability of many system components are based on certain design parameters that include operating speed. The same goes for problems stemming from higher cooling system temperatures because of reduced water pump flow caused by the installation of underdrive pulleys. Increased underhood temperatures caused by owner-induced changes to a factory design-specification part can have a detrimental effect on any number of powertrain components or systems some that may have long-range implications. And things can get even more serious when supercharger pulley changes are made, including head gasket leaks and piston and connecting rod failures. Also possible is piston damage due to detonation from improper air/fuel and timing modifications.

The installation of any non-factory forced induction system can also cause problems. Base engines modified with aftermarket superchargers, turbochargers or nitrous oxide injection systems may indeed bring about some power gains, but they can cause piston, connecting rod and/or crankshaft failures as well.

Other parts of a vehicle's factory-spec drivetrain are also susceptible to damage when engine torque and horsepower is increased. Performance chips or other power-enhancing devices increase torque loads on the driveline and can force failure of the transmission and/or rear axle. The latter problem can be especially true when owners switch to wider tires or racing slicks in an effort to increase traction. Even non "go-fast" aftermarket accessories such as remote starters, alarms, supplementary gauges and audio equipment can cause electrical system service problems if they are installed incorrectly or have improper connections.

When it comes to fairly evaluating the possibility of a warranty denial, there's one simple rule of thumb to follow: Although the installation of non-Ford parts and aftermarket modifications, by themselves, will not void the Ford New Vehicle Limited Warranty, failures that result from these parts and/or modifications may result in a denial of warranty coverage for such failures or damage.

The bottom line is, Ford Motor Company wants each of its owners to enjoy their product to the fullest extent and that includes performance vehicles. But dealer service technicians have seen, and continue to see, that modifications may cause the original design to fail. The addition of aftermarket parts is a risk that each and every vehicle owner must evaluate for themselves. All that's needed is a reasonable dose of common sense. When and if you modify your vehicle, please consider whether the modification may cause another component to fail and if it does, recognize that warranty coverage for that failure or damage will likely be denied. "
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My stick gets 18mpg when I drive it kinda hard. All I have is exhaust.
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The SD coilpack will be way less reliable than the OEM coilpack due to lack of SAE reliability tests!

And Trent, you know my feelings about UDPs!!


Yes Bob I know where you stand and it makes no difference, I'm not adopting your every mod is pointless and a waste mentality so don't waste your finger energy.
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I would not buy it dude. It doesnt seem like the price justifies buying it. But do what you want.
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I'm trying to work my magic on getting some used ones right now, we'll see how that goes.
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im pretty sure if there were issues with the udp's then NO ONE would be spending money to hurt there truck. seriously. trent do both and then when everyone asks in the future what a difference they make, you cant tell them. plus that whole rant from the Ford warranty guy.. NO ****. way to waste your time on an articulate article to basicaly say that if u mod your engine we wont cover it.
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You obviously don't understand electrical component reliability!
There has been no problems with SD pack on Rangers. End of story.
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p.s. you find a single solitery person with an f250 or f350. with intake exhaust programmer that says "yea it hurt my truck" hahahha bull sh**. best thing they ever did
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