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hey i know people dont build this engine out of cost too power ratio. if i was too run the
Tom Morana Racing Engines stoker kit and the
Super Six Motorsports 4.0 sohc heads wouldnt that give me a very powerful sohc ? i am wondering how that would effect the vehicel for reliablity ? also before i would like too run the RP casters kit. what do you guys feel that engine would make. also too get all of this in the truck and runnin i feel would be realistic with in 5-7 years if i didnt make it top priority wich i am not.
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well, the stroker kit says it adds 30hp, and the heads say 50hp... so i would say somewhere in the neighbourhood of..... 80 hp? you talking about using the m90 sc?
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the stroked and heads plus super charger would be sick easly make over 200 hp at the rear wheels
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the stroked and heads plus super charger would be sick easly make over 200 hp at the rear wheels
hope so, seeing as the motor has 210 at the flywheel... so all you would be doing is increasing it by the same amount as the driveline loss... which i believe is about 15-20% on the average vehicle... so you are looking at a loss of 40hp to the wheels... roughly... i would say without the sc, just the stroker kit, and heads, you would be looking at over 200 wheel hp... somewhere around 232 hp at the wheels, taking 20% into consideration, keeping in mind a 4wd has the transfercase, so the driveline loss is more than say, a mustang...
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yea it will be pretty sweet
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the only thing about the stroker kit, is the new crank may not clear everything in the bottom end... so you may have to have your block machined
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Morana uses the stock crank that he has machined for the stroker kit. Thats why supersix is not a fan of it.
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maybe so, but your conrods may still have clearance issues as the angles will be different
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so the stock engine has 210hp add 30 for stroker=240 pluse 50 for the heads 290 pluse 70 from super charger 360 seems like it would be alot of fun. alos dose any one know if the heads and the stroker will work together for sure?
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so your looking at around 300 at the rear wheels
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Just do a 302 or something haha, so much more aftermarket support so it'll be easier to get higher numbers..

and imo the sound of a wrapped out V8 beats a V6 any day.
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so the stock engine has 210hp add 30 for stroker=240 pluse 50 for the heads 290 pluse 70 from super charger 360 seems like it would be alot of fun. alos dose any one know if the heads and the stroker will work together for sure?

It doesn't work that way. The same as adding a CAI (10hp), an exhaust (10hp), headers (10hp) and a programmer (20hp) won't yield a magical 260 hp at the flywheel.

It reminds me of the guy on the local Craigslist selling a 96 Mustang V6 with a bunch of bolt ons and an electric supercharger (lol) that claims it has 260hp.
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It doesn't work that way. The same as adding a CAI (10hp), an exhaust (10hp), headers (10hp) and a programmer (20hp) won't yield a magical 260 hp at the flywheel.

It reminds me of the guy on the local Craigslist selling a 96 Mustang V6 with a bunch of bolt ons and an electric supercharger (lol) that claims it has 260hp.
do i need to dig up the electric supercharger thread again? why even mention it...
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Just do a 302 or something haha, so much more aftermarket support so it'll be easier to get higher numbers..

and imo the sound of a wrapped out V8 beats a V6 any day.
it has been explaned with the year of my truck its not the best idea and i would like too prove the v6 isnt trash its got more too it than most think but yes it is not a v8

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It doesn't work that way. The same as adding a CAI (10hp), an exhaust (10hp), headers (10hp) and a programmer (20hp) won't yield a magical 260 hp at the flywheel.

It reminds me of the guy on the local Craigslist selling a 96 Mustang V6 with a bunch of bolt ons and an electric supercharger (lol) that claims it has 260hp.
lol i know those numbers are not exact but im saying it would be a huge gain from stock and i think we are all on par with that. and i figure my exhaust have my 2 hp if any lol it was just for the sound

frist thing to go on would be the supercharger hopefully this year and i have to learn more about the compatibalty of the stroker and the heads still
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first thing SHOULD be the stroker kit... build it from the bottom up, so you aren't taking your new parts off to overhaul the motor... put the stroker kit on it, and do a full re-build, including a re-bore of the cylinders if they need it... you could also over bore the motor to give you a higher displacement... regardless though, put in new main bearings, new rings the whole nine yards... don't do much to your heads though... i wouldn't even change the valves unless one looks like it's broken or something...

that way you have a reason to get the new heads... once you have your new motor built, you can add the blower to that... that's how i would do it atleast...
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first thing SHOULD be the stroker kit... build it from the bottom up, so you aren't taking your new parts off to overhaul the motor... put the stroker kit on it, and do a full re-build, including a re-bore of the cylinders if they need it... you could also over bore the motor to give you a higher displacement... regardless though, put in new main bearings, new rings the whole nine yards... don't do much to your heads though... i wouldn't even change the valves unless one looks like it's broken or something...

that way you have a reason to get the new heads... once you have your new motor built, you can add the blower to that... that's how i would do it atleast...
yep that does make the most sense but the blower is cheap and high powerd and that is why its gona go first. i got too pick up a second car for when i do the stroker because it will be only the second engine i have taken apart so im sure it will be out of comission for a while. i want too have a street ranger and a off road ranger so i will prob grab on from the states for like 5g i think a 03 edge or something would do the trick then i would swap the bodies of them i think the edge looks way better than the b400 front.
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fraser, give me a shout when you are going to do this, i have taken a tonne of motors apart... it's pretty simple... a few of them even got put back together eventually

where abouts do you live again? i know i asked you that in the past...
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evergreen also this wont be a anytime soon kinda thing. hopefull the supercharger will and if you would like too help with that im sure i could use the extra hands and help
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i would have no problem lending you a set of hands, but i know next to nothing about superchargers... i know how they work and what they do, but i've never worked on a single vehicle that had one...
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i would have no problem lending you a set of hands, but i know next to nothing about superchargers... i know how they work and what they do, but i've never worked on a single vehicle that had one...
same with me so i guess were gona learn how
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