Headers 4.0 SOHC EGR too short!
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Headers 4.0 SOHC EGR too short!
I've installed pacesetter shorty's on my 02 xlt 4x4 4.0 sohc and the egr fitting placement was different than on the manifolds, so my egr is an inch or two too short! Has anyone else had this problem, if so how did you solve it? My engine oil dipstick tube doesn't fit because of the header flange and I can't find a tube bender for 1/2" tubing anywhere. Has anyone also had that problem and how did you fix it?
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I had gotten some scratches on this one but covered it up with more high temp rustoleum. I had to put spacers under the coil bracket so everything lined up and I was able to use the stock bolts for it. And Now the dipstick tube needs to be bent towards the bottom to clear the header flange!
I forgot to take a picture after the gasket.
I forgot to take one before the gasket... Again I had to put spacers underneath the bracket and everything fit correctly.
This one was a lot easier to put in but I did get a couple scratches on it, then also covered it with another coat.
It was a huge pain to get them in, but they fit great. I had to put spacers underneath the coil bracket and was able to get those 3 bolts in nicely. They didn't fit up to the stock y-pipe like stated on their website, but I was going to get all new 2" pipes anyway and won't need it. I am also getting them put inwith no cats and 2 8" cherry bomb glasspacks. (There is no smog here.. and I don't care, government is corrupt beyond all comprehension anyway)
I forgot to take a picture after the gasket.
I forgot to take one before the gasket... Again I had to put spacers underneath the bracket and everything fit correctly.
This one was a lot easier to put in but I did get a couple scratches on it, then also covered it with another coat.
It was a huge pain to get them in, but they fit great. I had to put spacers underneath the coil bracket and was able to get those 3 bolts in nicely. They didn't fit up to the stock y-pipe like stated on their website, but I was going to get all new 2" pipes anyway and won't need it. I am also getting them put inwith no cats and 2 8" cherry bomb glasspacks. (There is no smog here.. and I don't care, government is corrupt beyond all comprehension anyway)
Last edited by Jonny Jekyll; 04-14-2018 at 02:05 AM.
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Good info, great pictures
If you pull out the dip stick tube, you can fill it with sand and then bend it a bit without collapsing it.
Low tech tube bending, lol.
The EGR tube also has the DPFE sensor hoses on it, so best bet would be to connect tube to the EGR valve first, so those hoses are the same distance from EGR Valve, then measure distance from end of tube to header pipe connection and extend it there, its standard size pipe fittings so should be doable with off the shelf fittings
If you pull out the dip stick tube, you can fill it with sand and then bend it a bit without collapsing it.
Low tech tube bending, lol.
The EGR tube also has the DPFE sensor hoses on it, so best bet would be to connect tube to the EGR valve first, so those hoses are the same distance from EGR Valve, then measure distance from end of tube to header pipe connection and extend it there, its standard size pipe fittings so should be doable with off the shelf fittings
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Dipstick Tube and Egr
Good info, great pictures
If you pull out the dip stick tube, you can fill it with sand and then bend it a bit without collapsing it.
Low tech tube bending, lol.
The EGR tube also has the DPFE sensor hoses on it, so best bet would be to connect tube to the EGR valve first, so those hoses are the same distance from EGR Valve, then measure distance from end of tube to header pipe connection and extend it there, its standard size pipe fittings so should be doable with off the shelf fittings
If you pull out the dip stick tube, you can fill it with sand and then bend it a bit without collapsing it.
Low tech tube bending, lol.
The EGR tube also has the DPFE sensor hoses on it, so best bet would be to connect tube to the EGR valve first, so those hoses are the same distance from EGR Valve, then measure distance from end of tube to header pipe connection and extend it there, its standard size pipe fittings so should be doable with off the shelf fittings
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Not a great idea for the 150 miles, 3 miles would be fine
One of the things an exhaust system does is to stop cold air from getting near hot exhaust valves, they can warp if they get hit with cold air.
Those plugs they put on dragsters with short pipes are not to stop stuff falling in, they put them in to stop cold air from getting in.
It probably won't run very well without O2 feed back, stuck in open loop and it, hopefully, will run Rich, which is much safe than Lean
One of the things an exhaust system does is to stop cold air from getting near hot exhaust valves, they can warp if they get hit with cold air.
Those plugs they put on dragsters with short pipes are not to stop stuff falling in, they put them in to stop cold air from getting in.
It probably won't run very well without O2 feed back, stuck in open loop and it, hopefully, will run Rich, which is much safe than Lean
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Not a great idea for the 150 miles, 3 miles would be fine
One of the things an exhaust system does is to stop cold air from getting near hot exhaust valves, they can warp if they get hit with cold air.
Those plugs they put on dragsters with short pipes are not to stop stuff falling in, they put them in to stop cold air from getting in.
It probably won't run very well without O2 feed back, stuck in open loop and it, hopefully, will run Rich, which is much safe than Lean
One of the things an exhaust system does is to stop cold air from getting near hot exhaust valves, they can warp if they get hit with cold air.
Those plugs they put on dragsters with short pipes are not to stop stuff falling in, they put them in to stop cold air from getting in.
It probably won't run very well without O2 feed back, stuck in open loop and it, hopefully, will run Rich, which is much safe than Lean
Does anyone have pictures of how they had to bend their dipstick after installing headers? I got it really close to fitting until it broke, I need to be able to bend it with a smaller angle.
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Sorry for the late reply, I never check my email. I can't remember where (possibly Ebay) but it was an EGR fitting from an OHV Ranger and it's held up perfectly all of this time. I would assume only Pacesetter creates this problem, if you were to get higher quality headers (as I should have) like JBA then I doubt you would have this problem.
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