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Has anyone herinstalled Long tube headers? If so are their any vids of it?
I am looking for a set of them for a 4.0 OHV. The only ones ive seen are JBA and L and L but i was wondering if anyone ever installed them....

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No one makes long tube headers for Rangers. They are all shorty style. You would have to get some custom made.
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don't know cost of l & l but jbas are overpriced imo though pacesetter has a bad rep thinking of giving them a try, have still heard enough positive comments on them to give them a try, at least they are affordable headers costing $500+ for a v6 is ridiculous imo
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pacesetters are good if you can make them work well.

if you think you can just get them and bolt them in and go, you're wrong.

i cant speak for the ranger, but i can for the grand prix.

they leaked like crazy.

needed some custom work to make em perfect.

but they were the cheapest brand name headers out for the grand prix.
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Ive heard they pacesetters werent that great....
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I've had pacesetters on two other cars. In both cases they were junk. They don't fit very well at all.

IMO when it comes to headers on a *stock* short stroke motor (like our 4.0L) equal length primaries and not too big a primary diameter is the key.

LT headers are good for high flow rates. High flow rates come from long stroke motors, high rpms, and power adders. A stock 4.0L in a ranger pickup really is not the place for a LT. A nice set of shorties or a nice set of equal length shorties is a better performer for cases like the avg ranger guy.

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I've had pacesetters on two other cars. In both cases they were junk. They don't fit very well at all.

IMO when it comes to headers on a *stock* short stroke motor (like our 4.0L) equal length primaries and not too big a primary diameter is the key.

LT headers are good for high flow rates. High flow rates come from long stroke motors, high rpms, and power adders. A stock 4.0L in a ranger pickup really is not the place for a LT. A nice set of shorties or a nice set of equal length shorties is a better performer for cases like the avg ranger guy.

Rich
Describe "short stroke"
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I ran headman headers on one of my ohv and I never had a problem they were pretty east to install and they worked fine for my aplication I think they cost me about 2 hundo. But I do have another set for a 4wd application wich I may work on your truck yet. I dono about the 00 fitment with them. if you wanna look into it ill sell you them for 100 they havent ever been on a truck. But there is a little bit of discoloring since there painted mild steel and there paint sucks.
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thinks he mean is stroke shorter than bore diameter..Ie the 300 inline 6 cylinder was a long stroke engine ..stroke larger than bore diameter
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I know guy who has long tube headers on his 94 ranger. Course he had 394 windsor in it too.
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SHORT STROKE


When the piston diameter is larger than the distance it travels in the bore it's considered a "short stroke" engine. Our 4.0L have:
bore = 3.95
stroke = 3.32

There are certian traits of long stroke and short stroke motors.
Short stroke motors have slower moving pistons and thus require less timing. And for the sake of this post they move less air for a given rpm of the crank.
They develop thier peak TQ higher in rpms... which brings up a point. Actually a short stroke motor in a truck is backwards. A truck is generally used in low rpm ways. It woud make more sense to have a long stroke. That way you get more low end TQ in a engine that's most likely never going to see over 5000 rpms. But this motor is a eveloution of the old german V6 from the 70s.
Over time the motor has been stroked and bored to increase it's size. And as such you can only go so far before you run out of metal and it's integrity / shape.
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SHORT STROKE


When the piston diameter is larger than the distance it travels in the bore it's considered a "short stroke" engine. Our 4.0L have:
bore = 3.95
stroke = 3.32

There are certian traits of long stroke and short stroke motors.
Short stroke motors have slower moving pistons and thus require less timing. And for the sake of this post they move less air for a given rpm of the crank.
They develop thier peak TQ higher in rpms... which brings up a point. Actually a short stroke motor in a truck is backwards. A truck is generally used in low rpm ways. It woud make more sense to have a long stroke. That way you get more low end TQ in a engine that's most likely never going to see over 5000 rpms. But this motor is a eveloution of the old german V6 from the 70s.
Over time the motor has been stroked and bored to increase it's size. And as such you can only go so far before you run out of metal and it's integrity / shape.
Long stroke engines make more torque due to the higher mechanical advantage of the longer throw of the crank.
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