New Headers No EGR On them
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New Headers No EGR On them
Hey guys just got my set of JBA headers today. 1674S, I just found out I need 1674S-1. The new headers don't have the port for the EGR tube. I really would like to not have to mess around with trying to return them, I HATE doing that. Got them from Performance Peddler on Ebay, they outsource directly to JBA I got them for 315 bucks. So down to my question, should I remove the EGR valve and plug it and get a new tune from Doug at Bama? Would I still lose performance from Deleting the EGR like I have read? Thanks!
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At this point it would be more of a hassle for me to return the headers. Do you think that getting a new tune would help the Part-Throttle performance and economy? Also I'd hack the EGR tube off with a sawzall and then plug the tube going to the intake until I would get the tune then I would remove the EGR itself and plug the Intake hole.
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This could be a concern if you delete the EGR without doing a custom calibration. The spark is advanced slightly when EGR is added - that's the source of the small fuel economy benefit. It could also possibly cause part-throttle detonation depending on how close to the edge the factory calibration is. It seems that 3.0's are generally more sensitive to this but a 4.0 might also get into det if conditions were right.
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When I ordered mine I got headers w/o the EGR port. I just plugged the EGR, removed the exhaust tube, unplugged it from the harness, and plugged off the vacuum line. I have tunes from Rogue, and I don't have a C/E light unless I put it back to stock.
No loss in power that I noticed, but I've never put it on a dyno. Also since I did this when I installed the headers, the power/ throttle response from that helped.
Edit: Also, no pinging for me. Even when on the stock tune.
No loss in power that I noticed, but I've never put it on a dyno. Also since I did this when I installed the headers, the power/ throttle response from that helped.
Edit: Also, no pinging for me. Even when on the stock tune.
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Not what I said. I just mean that it was hard for me to tell if there was a loss of power because of adding headers. I see no reason you would lose power, other than it wouldn't be adding exhaust gas at part throttle anymore. I'm no expert, but I don't like exhaust going into my intake anyway. Seems like purely an emission control to me.
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That depends on tools, facilities and experience. I've heard claims of as little as 1.5 hours using a hoist all the way up to an entire weekend. To be on the safe side, I think you should plan on more time than 4 hours. I installed a set one Saturday taking my time. There will be rusted bolts to deal with and access to the header bolts is limited. IMO, the header install is far easier if you remove the plastic inner fenders first.
FYI - when you disconnect the steering shaft, do not turn the steering wheel or the clockspring may break later. I'd just lock the column with the key to prevent it from accidentally getting turned.
FYI - when you disconnect the steering shaft, do not turn the steering wheel or the clockspring may break later. I'd just lock the column with the key to prevent it from accidentally getting turned.
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If you need to pull the studs, they take a reverse Torx socket, E7 IIRC. They can also be pulled by the traditional "double nutting" technique. A good selection of metric universal sockets and wobble extensions would also help. Might need a propane torch to help loosen stubborn exhaust nuts/bolts. Otherwise, ordinary hand tools.
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My truck was 3 days. Mostly due to stuck studs.
I needed a stud puller from harbor freight. Which worked great. It destroyed the studs in the process so if you use it have new bolts.
I also decide stage 8 hardware was a good idea. Turned out the heads didn't fit the headers well and needed some convincing and a tad of flange cutting.
I needed a stud puller from harbor freight. Which worked great. It destroyed the studs in the process so if you use it have new bolts.
I also decide stage 8 hardware was a good idea. Turned out the heads didn't fit the headers well and needed some convincing and a tad of flange cutting.
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I bought my JBAs used and they came without hardware, gaskets or instructions. I ended up reusing the original factory studs but had to remove some of them temporarily to squeeze the headers in place. Also used new Ford factory stainless gaskets because they were way cheaper than the JBA replacements.
The front wheels, splash shields and inner fenders were removed. This opened up a lot of area to work. Here's the installed header on the passenger side:
And here's the driver side installation. This side is something of a jigsaw puzzle. The steering shaft was temporarily disconnected and the dipstick tube was recontoured to fit the header flange. It helps to have a variety of universal sockets, wobble extensions, shorty wrenches and ratcheting box wrenches in addition to common sockets and wrenches. As mentioned before, an E7 reverse Torx socket is handy for setting the exhaust studs:
Before I reinstalled the inner fenders, I heat cycled the headers twice and retightened the flanges. I didn't feel like taking this back apart for any exhaust leaks! And it had never had any.
One other thing. I ground a small bevel on the passenger side collector flange to open up a little clearance to the oil filter adapter. It may have been possible to make it work without the bevel but I had heard that other people had trouble with contact or interference between these parts on the 4.0L Ranger. These were early JBAs and they may have fixed this by now - just something to watch out for. Also, I don't remember if the interference was a 4x4 only problem or if applied to all 4.0 SOHCs.
The front wheels, splash shields and inner fenders were removed. This opened up a lot of area to work. Here's the installed header on the passenger side:
And here's the driver side installation. This side is something of a jigsaw puzzle. The steering shaft was temporarily disconnected and the dipstick tube was recontoured to fit the header flange. It helps to have a variety of universal sockets, wobble extensions, shorty wrenches and ratcheting box wrenches in addition to common sockets and wrenches. As mentioned before, an E7 reverse Torx socket is handy for setting the exhaust studs:
Before I reinstalled the inner fenders, I heat cycled the headers twice and retightened the flanges. I didn't feel like taking this back apart for any exhaust leaks! And it had never had any.
One other thing. I ground a small bevel on the passenger side collector flange to open up a little clearance to the oil filter adapter. It may have been possible to make it work without the bevel but I had heard that other people had trouble with contact or interference between these parts on the 4.0L Ranger. These were early JBAs and they may have fixed this by now - just something to watch out for. Also, I don't remember if the interference was a 4x4 only problem or if applied to all 4.0 SOHCs.