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USMCWHITENER 09-28-2007 11:41 PM

289 V8 in 96 Ranger
 
well I was talking with my brother today...i think we may try and make my 1996 Ranger a V8 project....we are thinking about putting a 289 V8 in it and put a 5 spd in to back it.......anyone got pics of this in a 93 or newer? i'd like to keep my AC and stuff....will this be possbile?

greygooseranger 09-29-2007 06:10 AM

Terry, I don't think I have ever seen a 289 swap done, 99 percent of the time its a 302. This should be interesting...

V8 Level II 09-29-2007 06:31 AM

A carbureted 289 will go in just as easily as a carbureted 302. A/C can be retained but will probably require parts and/or fabrication to match up the old with the new.

Here are some links for V8 conversions on 97-back Rangers:

http://www.jamesduff.com/broncoII/v8conversion.html
http://www.harwoodperformance.bizland.com/
http://72.20.96.178/commerce/ccc1010...-bronco-ii.htm
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/for...play.php?f=159
http://www.v8-ranger.com/

USMCWHITENER 09-29-2007 07:12 PM

well we are leaning more into a EFI 289 V8...if i have the facts right....the efi 289 will have more throttle and a carb. 289 will have alot more power....so if i go with a efi then i dont have to worry about that extra power as if i go with an carb. 289. Also if i go with EFI 289...dont have to worry about them cold days with an carb.

mazda98 09-29-2007 08:40 PM

definetly different,sounds like it is going to be a good project.

blueranger06 10-10-2009 04:11 PM

Just wanted to say good luck Terry. I'm going to do the same project. Found a 289 carbureted 300+ hp for 1500 bucks. I'm gonna post some pics on my profile of it. I hope it doesn't disappear before I get down there. I'll add you so we can share info.

05prerunner 10-10-2009 05:41 PM

If you do a EFI 289, that will be cool most definitely! However, depending on which FI set-up you use, you may want to swap over to a 351W cam. Most, if not all, of the Sequential Port systems use the 351 firing order. The engine will run if you use SPFI and a 289/302 style cam, but it won't be as efficient because fuel will puddle on top of the valve before entering the combustion chamber. However, I do believe that all of the non-HO engines used the 289/302 firing order, so if you use that system you will be fine, but power will be less.

cheese_man 01-01-2010 05:16 AM

yes
basically a 302 engine is a bored and stroked 289 block
use the 289 block / heads / camshaft / timing chain / intake/
but use the 302 crankshaft and connecting rods
you will build yourself a torque monster

if you want a stick shift ,, use the NEW VENTURE 5600 heavy duty 5 speed
( no other 5 speed stick shift tranny can handle that amount of torque that engine will put out )

cheese_man 01-01-2010 05:19 AM

oh i forgot to mention that /// that is the stick tranny chrysler uses behind their 6.5 litre cummins diesel
pick-up trucks

Ranger_Envy 01-01-2010 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by cheese_man (Post 1562874)
yes
basically a 302 engine is a bored and stroked 289 block
use the 289 block / heads / camshaft / timing chain / intake/
but use the 302 crankshaft and connecting rods
you will build yourself a torque monster

if you want a stick shift ,, use the NEW VENTURE 5600 heavy duty 5 speed
( no other 5 speed stick shift tranny can handle that amount of torque that engine will put out )

Why would you take a 289 and slap in a 302 rotating assembly? You're not going to gain anything over a standard 302.
Is the 289 free? Why not just go with a 5.0. You get a few extra cubes, a roller block, and the correct firing order cam. I could see doing something like this if you were going to do something really off the wall like a 351C or Boss 302 then it would be neat but no one will really know that its a 289 unless you tell them. A 289 isn't anything special, they still have the same crappy SBF heads so it won't be making anymore power than any other base 302. If you do decide to go with a 289 make sure you get a later version with a 6 bolt bellhousing setup not a 5 bolt.

cheese_man 01-01-2010 11:41 AM

using a 289 block with the 302 crank and connecting rods
will yield more torque output than a stock 302 would

basically you build a stump puller of an engine

07Sport4x4 01-01-2010 12:05 PM

A 289 is a 4" bore / 2.87" stroke. A 302 / 5.0L is a 4" bore / 3.00" stroke.
Putting a 302 crank in a 289 block still only yields a 302. Exactly the same power output as regular 302 / 5.0L given the same compression/heads/cam/fuel system/etc.
Just know that you're not increasing the displacement at all with a 302 crank in a 289 block when compared to a regular 302 / 5.0L and therefore also, no increase in power output.

Scrambler82 04-08-2010 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by USMCWHITENER (Post 766219)
well I was talking with my brother today...i think we may try and make my 1996 Ranger a V8 project....we are thinking about putting a 289 V8 in it and put a 5 spd in to back it.......anyone got pics of this in a 93 or newer? i'd like to keep my AC and stuff....will this be possbile?

I was thinking of the same thing, take the 5.0L and add an aftermarket 289 CI/2.87 Stroke Crank and then add a longer connecting Rod; after mkt rods something a little longer than the 289 HP Engine.
What will this give you ? Well an engine with a little longer Piston Dwell at the top and bottom of the stroke creating more torque on the low end and a little more HP on the top end.
If you run the 5.0L EFI Cam you will have the correct firing order and a higher RPM/Torque Spec Cam, might be good, sort of like having a 289 with a higher end cam.
Also the EFI on the 289 will help with a more even flat torque curve, comes in earlier and stays the same.
The actual transplant shouldn’t be any different than the 302 setup.


Originally Posted by USMCWHITENER (Post 766554)
well we are leaning more into a EFI 289 V8...if i have the facts right....the efi 289 will have more throttle and a carb. 289 will have alot more power....so if i go with a efi then i dont have to worry about that extra power as if i go with an carb. 289. Also if i go with EFI 289...dont have to worry about them cold days with an carb.

I don’t believe if both engines are left stock that the 289 will make more power, just do the numbers and the 302 should be more capable.
The EFI will increase the power for both motors equally.
The Headers/Exhaust, if using a 1.5” or larger header/exhaust tube then the 302 will gain more from the larger ID BUT that will depend on heads/cam/Intake used.
Oh ya, DON’T port and polish the heads if you intend to use this as a daily driver/off roader, the gains will be minimum and believe it or not you could lose.

A lot to think about but it should be a good setup and I am still looking for the right engine to start with.
Remember this is IMHO, only !
ltr/Luck,

cheese_man 04-08-2010 03:31 PM

the 289`s combustion chamber should be slightly smaller

with a carb ,, it will yield more ooomph

( same air/fuel amount -smaller chamber - more ooomph

Ranger_Envy 04-08-2010 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Scrambler82 (Post 1638160)
Oh ya, DON’T port and polish the heads if you intend to use this as a daily driver/off roader, the gains will be minimum and believe it or not you could lose.

I don't believe correctly porting stock SBF heads will ever hurt street performance/off road use. The stock castings are so terrible that you really can't do any more damage to them than already done. If you look the GT40 head is just a revised (with big ports) SBF head it does fine in explorers and 5.0 Cobra mustangs. You can run into problems if you get the overall port volume too large for its intended use, for example, If you're running like 220CC+ runners on a more or less stock 5.0 engine that probably won't be benefitial for the street.

Scrambler82 04-08-2010 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Ranger_Envy (Post 1638225)
I don't believe correctly porting stock SBF heads will ever hurt street performance/off road use. The stock castings are so terrible that you really can't do any more damage to them than already done. If you look the GT40 head is just a revised (with big ports) SBF head it does fine in explorers and 5.0 Cobra mustangs. You can run into problems if you get the overall port volume too large for its intended use, for example, If you're running like 220CC+ runners on a more or less stock 5.0 engine that probably won't be benefitial for the street.

Agreed, that the older Ford Heads were bad and that almost anything would help some, porting maybe a little, polishing none.
Polishing smooths out the posts, reducing turbulent flow, allowing the air/fuel mixture to separate some and in turn reducing the combustion efficiency while unpolished ports will have turbulent flow and keep the air/fuel mixture mixed resulting in a better BOOM in the chamber.

Also, cheese_man, the quenched chamber of some of the 289 head were better than other but not all.

USMCWHITENER,
If you want a little more efficiency consider a set of the newer Explorer Heads or if you can find them a set of 351W Heads.


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