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Yup, I've even seen 460's wedged into Rangers. It all takes time, money and innovation. The bigger you go, the more of each you will need.
what year are we talking about here..

you can fit big motors like that in any pre 97 ranger with little to no mods.
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Said vehicle in this thread.
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Yeah. If i can find an explorer donor than ill just swap everything over
The easiest donor for a 99~2000 V6 4x4 Ranger would be a 99~2001 Explorer 5.0 with a 4R70W transmission and AWD transfer case.
  • The Ex engine, transmission and t-case will bolt in using the Ex engine plates and isolators.
  • Stock Ranger driveshafts should bolt up.
  • Both use a 65 PSI mechanical returnless fuel system.
  • Both have the identical Type B PATS.
  • Both use the same type of speed sensor system.
  • For the most part, the Explorer engine and transmission harnesses are highly compatible with the Ranger electrical system.
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what year are we talking about here..

you can fit big motors like that in any pre 97 ranger with little to no mods.
Little to no mods? Are you sure of that? Why do you think the '98-up Rangers have less room up front? Do you have measurements?
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Little to no mods? Are you sure of that? Why do you think the '98-up Rangers have less room up front? Do you have measurements?
its a known fact, do some research.

ford completely redesigned the front of the 98+ rangers (suspension, frame and body)

edit, i see your sig now, you stuffed a 4.6 in a 98, so you should know what im talking about.

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its a known fact, do some research.

ford completely redesigned the front of the 98+ rangers (suspension, frame and body)

edit, i see your sig now, you stuffed a 4.6 in a 98, so you should know what im talking about.
No, I don't know what you're talking about. Tell me were the '98+ engine bays got smaller. Because, if it's a known fact, you should be able to tell me if the '98+ are smaller front to back, side to side, depth, between the frame rails, etc.
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i would rather have my truck be a reliable daily driver then save money and go with a carb.
Ditto.

If you wheel your truck that carb isn't gonna like it.
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unless ur an avenger
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Here is a pic of mine (302 with Holley Pro-Jection).......
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Mines in a 84.....
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i'm looking into doing this swap myself. I have a 1996 Ranger with 2.3L in it currently. I'm thinking about going 302 EFI on my Ranger. Trying to find a 5.0 Explorer in GA for a good price though.
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If anything 98 and up Rangers have MORE room in the engine bay, not less.
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GregR had far less issues with size then I did with the motor fitting. I find it easier to fit a large motor in the 98 up!
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GregR had far less issues with size then I did with the motor fitting. I find it easier to fit a large motor in the 98 up!
There's enough room if you eliminate the air conditioning and build a special steering shaft like GregR did in his 98.
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There's enough room if you eliminate the air conditioning and build a special steering shaft like GregR did in his 98.
That special steering shaft came from a Crown Vic and is unaltered. Where the steering shaft comes through the firewall was altered by a couple inches. Compare that with what dlibson had to do to his '85 to get the 4.6 sohc in and the '98+ wins hands down.

Also, if you really look at a 460 swap, special machining needs to be done to the block to replace the oil filter with fittings because there's not enough clearance with the steering box to allow for an oil filter relocation kit.

As for the AC, show me ANY 4.6 or 460 swap that has kept the AC as it originally came from the factory.

If anybody has the engine bay of their '97-earlier Ranger empty and would like to take some measurements, we could end the "what years are bigger" debate once and for all.
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what needs to be measured?

ill have my 2.5 in by the end of the week, so if i find time i will try to get some measurements.
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Ok, for referance:

1. Measure from the center of the top lip of the radiator support to the upper seam in the firewall.

2. Between the frame rails both in front and behind the crossmember.

That's about all I can do right now, the cab is off the frame.

The rack-n-pinion steering on the '98-up opens up alot of room for swapping engines. The fact that the frame is boxed from the trans crossmember forward helps with the torque of a bigger motor too.
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I've got the Pinks truck empty. I'll measure it!
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On my '98 2wd the measurements are:

From the radiator support to the firewall = 32-3/4"

Between the frame rails in front of crossmember = 26"

Between the frame rails behind the crossmember = 24"
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