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yea i think ima jus get the c6.
dont forget, u got the ever abundant option of AOD's aswell.....
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is there any AOD's that dont require a computer to allow the transmission to shift?
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i think older aod's (80's) werent computer controlled for shifting, only reason i say this is because of the physical size of a c6, wihtout a body lift or floor pan massaging fittin one into a ranger will be tough goings
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dang... decisions...decisions.lol
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dang... decisions...decisions.lol
well, this chart should help you out a bit in the descision making regard

http://classicbroncos.com/tranny-np435.shtml

scroll to the bottom and it lists small block transmission gearings
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ok new update...finally got the motor mounts i needed off ebay, took a lil while to convince the guy to sell me jus the mounts and not the whole 5.0 swap kit, but i got it,

Also got different exhaust manifolds that should be a better fit an allow ease of installation for the exhaust shop.

Still tryin to figure out what transmission to get though...tom. ima call up some places an see what they got.
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Did a lil searchin on the int. today to try an figure out which transmission to get...an i came upon this website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_C4_transmission.C

its very informative an it also told me where i can get the transmission out of.

On there theres also info about the C5, C6, AOD's, etc. Hope it helps anyone else lookin to do a 5.0 swap.
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Did a lil searchin on the int. today to try an figure out which transmission to get...an i came upon this website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_C4_transmission.C

its very informative an it also told me where i can get the transmission out of.

On there theres also info about the C5, C6, AOD's, etc. Hope it helps anyone else lookin to do a 5.0 swap.
Thanks that did help. I'm doing something similar but I'm told that I'd best be using an 04 explorer for 2 reasons. The first reason is due to the emissions thing which is crap to me, the second reason is because a 302 out of and 04 explorer will bolt right in since I have an Edge with the torsion bar front end on mine. What I was wondering did you have to move anything around like the steering box etc.? anymore info I can get would be helpfull because I have put V8's in dimers but no V8's in a Ranger. Just never got the chance. I got one dude bugging the crap out of me to do a V8 swap in his 4.3 liter dimer and what he's wanting is not street legal by any means at all.

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...the second reason is because a 302 out of and 04 explorer will bolt right in since I have an Edge with the torsion bar front end on mine.
Last year for a 302 in a production Explorer was 2001.
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^ what rwenzing said.

An as far as moving anything around, im not at that point yet where i can say i did or did not move anything, cause i havent put the motor in yet. Hopefully sometime next week it will be goin in. ill let you know though.
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What I was wondering did you have to move anything around like the steering box etc.?

You don't have a steering box, it's rack-n-pinion.
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Last year for a 302 in a production Explorer was 2001.
Yes you're right I just got a little confused about it. After all this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stopped production of the 302. I wonder how long this will last this time? They still produce it as a crate yes, but they no longer install it in current vehicles. The 4.6 has pretty much taken over and if you want a genuine factory 302 you've got to go to Ford Racing to get that engine. The O.E.M version is pretty hard to get from the factory anyway.

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You don't have a steering box, it's rack-n-pinion.
yes but power assisted rack and pinion. Cook's Body shop had a hard time getting that part when he repaired it after I hit a deer in 05. That was the part I was talking about.
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^ what rwenzing said.

An as far as moving anything around, im not at that point yet where i can say i did or did not move anything, cause i havent put the motor in yet. Hopefully sometime next week it will be goin in. ill let you know though.
Oh ok thanks. Oh did you find your tranny? if not here's something you'd might be interested in: www.mustangsunlimited.com they carry alot of C4 tranny's and parts for the C4 trans by performance auto racing trans.
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yes but power assisted rack and pinion. Cook's Body shop had a hard time getting that part when he repaired it after I hit a deer in 05. That was the part I was talking about.
rack and pinions shouldnt be hard to get, ive replaced 3 in my 98 due to crappy reman's but they always had them in stock at napa and autozone.
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Not sure if your still trying to figure out what transmission to run, but I would personally suggest against the AOD. I had it in my truck with a 302 and I had nothing but problems with them, they didn't seem to be able to hold the power, especially the overdrive band, those things were no match. I also found performance parts for the AOD to be expensive, I ended up swapping to a T5 in my truck and have been very happy with it, not sure if you want to stay auto or not.

As for the c4, c6 debate, if its a daily driver I would think you would want the c6 for the extra gear?

Edit: There is AOD's that do no require the electronic shift control, they were in fox body mustangs and the shift is controlled by a throttle cable. I've found it to be a terrible method of controlling the shift. Improper adjustment will fry a trans in a very short period of time.

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rack and pinions shouldnt be hard to get, ive replaced 3 in my 98 due to crappy reman's but they always had them in stock at napa and autozone.
Yes but for some strange reason they always sent one for another model and the local auto parts store didn't have any in stock at that time. plus there were other reasons why he had to order the part as well. The only thing that made me mad about the whole thing was the fact that the deer got up and sprinted off crippled. Plus about a year later the paint on the passenger side started to crack and it won't be long before it starts to peel. It was a botched paint job.
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Not sure if your still trying to figure out what transmission to run, but I would personally suggest against the AOD. I had it in my truck with a 302 and I had nothing but problems with them, they didn't seem to be able to hold the power, especially the overdrive band, those things were no match. I also found performance parts for the AOD to be expensive, I ended up swapping to a T5 in my truck and have been very happy with it, not sure if you want to stay auto or not.

As for the c4, c6 debate, if its a daily driver I would think you would want the c6 for the extra gear?

Edit: There is AOD's that do no require the electronic shift control, they were in fox body mustangs and the shift is controlled by a throttle cable. I've found it to be a terrible method of controlling the shift. Improper adjustment will fry a trans in a very short period of time.
Thanks man. I was looking at an AOD but it just didn't seem right to get that trans plus I had one in a mustang that gave me nothing but problems myself. I'm leaning towards a T-56 (6 speed tranny with overdrive) from tremec transmissions.
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The T-56 is a nice trans, its just a bit longer than the T5, but hey, who needs a trans tunnel anyways! haha
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The T-56 is a nice trans, its just a bit longer than the T5, but hey, who needs a trans tunnel anyways! haha
Ah thats a good one there (L.O.L). Thanks for reminding me about that. I just plain forgotton that fact. Oops.
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And do you have a good source for a T-56, because when I converted to a T5 earlier this summer, I looking into getting a T-56 but they seemed to be more expensive and harder to find.
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And do you have a good source for a T-56, because when I converted to a T5 earlier this summer, I looking into getting a T-56 but they seemed to be more expensive and harder to find.
www.tremec.com they do alot stuff with factory five racing replica cars and they advertise in just about every hot rod magazine you can find. bring your wallet though they aint cheap at all. What ratios should I get? I like the 4.10's I have now but I'm looking at other ratios too. Oh, check out Diesel Ranger's new thread. It's called the 7.3 liter's limit has been found. I've never seen an engine blow that bad ever. My local salvage yard didn't have the T-56 but he had the T-5. Wouldn't do me any good without having the motor to go with it though.

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Nothing wrong with an AOD if it's built right. I've had well over 200,000 km on mine and during the last teardown (to replace the output shaft so it would mate with my tranfercase) the only thing I replaced was the OD band - and even that was not too bad.
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Nothing wrong with an AOD if it's built right. I've had well over 200,000 km on mine and during the last teardown (to replace the output shaft so it would mate with my tranfercase) the only thing I replaced was the OD band - and even that was not too bad.
well true but I aint been that lucky. out 4 the very last one lasted 30K miles before it just gave out. I missed a 2001 302 engine yesterday by 30 minutes and he sold my trans too. damn it I say. Seems I can't get to my salvage yard fast enough.
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new update: motor is in and fits its real nice, nothing had to be moved...

went out and got my c4 tranny (finally) and now jus have to get a yoke for it and throw it in. i think its a 28 spline.

then its jus a matter of starting to connect some some stuff, hoses, clamps, etc. ya know
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