700HP V8, suspension question
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700HP V8, suspension question
So I am running a rather large motor in the ol Ranger and since it is still a project, the suspension is the next thing to tackle. Looking for any good information on what should be done. Stiffer/bigger springs in the front? Buy stiffeners for my springs? What different springs fit?
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700HP really doesn't tell us anything about the weight of the engine??
Aluminum block and head engines are much lighter than cast iron.
What is the base model of the V8 engine?
302-450lbs, hey it's possible, lol, Saleen 302 just out at 730HP
351-550lbs
429/460-650lbs
Will it have single or dual turbos or superchargers?
And I assume a '94 Ranger, but what model, and 2wd or 4wd, and what was the original engine?
4.0l ran about 430lbs
Lima 4cly was close to 430lbs, lol.
Good read on Ranger suspension by year/model here: The Ford Ranger Front Suspension
Obviously the frame and other parts also have a weight limit, not just the springs.
Aluminum block and head engines are much lighter than cast iron.
What is the base model of the V8 engine?
302-450lbs, hey it's possible, lol, Saleen 302 just out at 730HP
351-550lbs
429/460-650lbs
Will it have single or dual turbos or superchargers?
And I assume a '94 Ranger, but what model, and 2wd or 4wd, and what was the original engine?
4.0l ran about 430lbs
Lima 4cly was close to 430lbs, lol.
Good read on Ranger suspension by year/model here: The Ford Ranger Front Suspension
Obviously the frame and other parts also have a weight limit, not just the springs.
Last edited by RonD; 03-23-2015 at 09:17 PM.
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That is a very big amount of horsepower for this truck's frame. The big thing also to think about is also the torque that usually also comes from engines with that much power.
Any more details about the truck, OP?
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Dart short block should be around 320lbs
Cast heads are about 55lbs each, aluminum would of course be lighter
That puts you at about 430lbs
Then intake and blower weight
You may not be too far above original weight.
The F-150 coils can be made to fit I believe by changing the upper and lower buckets but never done that myself.
You could also look at what people used for 4BT diesel swaps into Rangers, those weigh in at about 700lbs
Cast heads are about 55lbs each, aluminum would of course be lighter
That puts you at about 430lbs
Then intake and blower weight
You may not be too far above original weight.
The F-150 coils can be made to fit I believe by changing the upper and lower buckets but never done that myself.
You could also look at what people used for 4BT diesel swaps into Rangers, those weigh in at about 700lbs
Last edited by RonD; 03-25-2015 at 11:12 AM.
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they sell drag shocks for the front and they have some that work on the rear to. I would say v6 springs and see how good it works. to get that much horse power to hook up you will need drag rad tires or slicks. I would look at
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Ya, like I said its still a work in progress. All I know is I use to hit bumps and there was very very little compression of the shocks, now I hit a pencil in the road and the whole front end bounces up and down so Im sure the motor weights quite a bit more than the stock 4cyl that use to be in it.
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Ya, like I said its still a work in progress. All I know is I use to hit bumps and there was very very little compression of the shocks, now I hit a pencil in the road and the whole front end bounces up and down so Im sure the motor weights quite a bit more than the stock 4cyl that use to be in it.
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Shocks have valves and fluid under pressure, they should absorb the bumps with the springs, not support the weight, then slow down the springs return to "normal" height so you don't get repeated up and down from 1 bump.
You can get shocks that are too stiff, they don't let the springs do their job, and you can get shocks that are not stiff enough so they don't slow down the springs return to normal height.
Springs may be to soft for the weight but the sign of that is the ride height, and bottoming out when springs compress's all the way on a bump
Last edited by RonD; 03-27-2015 at 07:31 PM.
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