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ROFL......4.6/5.4 have been done to death!?!?!?? ROFL!! You have much to learn. There's only a handful of mod motors in rangers...Beard and Ford are the only ones I'm aware of that've dropped in 5.4's in a Ranger.


WTF you talking "how much heat you'd get"??? You mean how much flack you'd be getting from us or others? Generally, we really don't give a damn what engine you put in it and most people wouldn't give a damn either. Only the purists would care. If i ever drop in an 8, I'd want it to be a GM gen3 8cyl. Like an LS1 or LS2...I'd loooove to have a carb'd 6.0 undre my hood of either of mytrucks. Or do you literally mean how much heat aka temperature you'd have under the hood?!?? lol.
That is what I meant. I thought about an LS1 but here in my area people aint giving them up too easily, even in a barely rebuildable condition. I'm wanting to do a V8 swap yes nothing new there, but I'm wanting to use a different powerplant. I meant to use the word flack earlier that was my fault there. I did find a link: www.BigBlockRanger.com . That being said, so you're saying only the ford freaks would attack me then huh? Well too bad for them. L.O.L. I know that I have alot to learn why do you think I'm on here.

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My question is how does tools and workspace have anything to do in the bowtie, blue oval choice you are trying to make. Both will take up the same amount of work space and both will use the very same tools. If you bother to do your research you will find that the Ford 351W is the same engine as the 302. The only difference is that the heads on the 351W are a bit wider than the 302. But they still use the same intake.This being said, putting the 351 into a Ranger is no problem. Will fit just like a 302. As for your choice of Chevy over Ford. You will learn that a Ford Windsor block is far and away better that the Chevy small block. They are much stronger and far more reliable. Chevy had to build their blocks with 4 bolt mains to get them to do the same as a Ford Windsor block with 2 bolt mains. Think about it.I have had several Fords that went several hundred thousand miles with the windsor block and I have had several 350's that went just as far, so I have been on both sides. Your choice will be your personal taste. The one thing you have failed to mention is the transmission. They never put a TH350 into a Ranger. The put the C-4 into just about everything Ford made. Just a thought. Have fun.
I know it is a matter of taste. I look at ALL options. If I didn't have a thief pay my tools a visit and was making alot more money I'd be doing this swap already. I know that ford always used a C4 tranny for the small blocks and C6 for the big blocks. Ford has some good engines, so does GM and chrysler. the reason I'm looking hard a GM is they're alot more wallet friendly if ya know what I mean. Any engine properly built will last as long as you take care of it. Plus the choice is more money than anything else too.

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You must be comparing probably a mid 80's 350 to a 97+ Truck. All motors Ford chev dodge were weak back then, emissions equipment caught the big three off guard (they thought it wouldn't happen) and it took them 20 years to get back to the horsepower people desire.

That being said, If you are going through the trouble, a Gen 1 350, you might as well get an explorer with a 5.0 and swap in the 5.0. They need to be carbed and cammed to the point that it is undrivable to be a contender (at least in what I think a V8 should be) same with the 5.0, stock they are weak and built they are impractical, there are better motors if you are spending the money. that being said. Go get a complete LQ4 (gen III small block) out of a Chevy truck (can be bought complete out of scrapyards for as little as $400) swap an LS6 manifold on to it For two reasons, 1 hood clearance and two it flows better. Go to Speed and performance and get their universal motor mount kit for the LS engine, Then there are plenty of companies that will make you a complete harness to mate that engine with your vehicle. For recommendations go to LS1tech.com. And when you are done without even opening up the engine, you will have around 400 WHP with a streetable motor, that in the ranger will probably get 25-30+ MPG. This would be the opportune time to go with a T-56 swap if you are 2WD. Oddly enough T-56's for LS based engines are cheaper than the T-56 for the LT1. Two reasons, They are still being made, and the LT1 T-56 bolts up to any 1st or second gen small block so street rodders are buying them up.

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Thankyou x1000. please email me with links and parts suggestions. I'm open for any advice like this, which all I wanted. here's my email adress: [email protected] thanks man. And to answer your other question I'm am 2WD. An LQ4 might be perfect. I already knew about the emissions catching up to them. I was 3 years old when Catalytic Converters came out in Sept of 1978. The changes over the years have been crazy which is another story in itself.

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No $hit. Ya think? I didnt say that it was going to be the easiest swap ever. I am not a moron. I just meant that it would be awesome if someone did.
They did: www.BigBlockRanger.com . I call it 90 lbs of crap in a 2 lb bag.
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You're talking about putting a big block engine into a tiny truck. Firewall modification would have to be done, and I'm sure the hood would be tough to close.

And I'm sorry, but just because your grandpa had one of the 900,000,000,000,000,000 of the 350 Chevy small blocks out there that sucked doesn't mean that every one of them needs all that aftermarket support to throw down some power. The Fords 302 also has a lot of aftermarket support. Does that mean that it sucks?
He just doesn't get it. Ford small blocks Like the 302 and 351 are getting harder and harder to find because they're popular indeed and both have aftermarket support yes. But GM's parts base is too large to ignore and they're alot easier on the wallet than most of Ford's aftermaket parts are too. I have too many catalogs here that uphold this statement. Plus here's several other reasons why I'm looking at this motor. You stated one earlier. The other is that they're super easy to work on, in other words simple. A gen. 1 SBC, if you can't work on it, it's either destroyed or there's something wrong with you. That's why I'm looking at this motor in a nut shell.
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Well I like to thank everyone for their feedback, I was hoping that most of it would be positive and philosophic about it and offer some tips and part links, but only a couple of you did. But it's still all good though. Any info is better than none.
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I know it's possible and everything but what I'm wondering is how much heat I'd get if I did this? the reason I'm looking at this motor is because they're easy to find and there's alot parts support for them. And above all else if something does go wrong it aint hard to work on either because they're simple to work on. Plus it's different. The 5.0/4.6/5.4 engine swaps have been done to death and it would be nice to have something different.
who cares what people say! i'd swap in a GM motor any day over a ford motor.

If i had an older ranger an ls1 swap would be the first thing i'd do.
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I think this is a great idea. The chevy 350 is a time proven power house. It's a great engine, its parts are cheap, and it is easy to build up and rebuilt. I think this would be a good project for someone, i'm sure they sell adapters and what not for it to bolt to the other ford stuff. I
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I'm doing a 91 ranger with a 460 based engine. I've done 3 rangers with 5.0's. Time to step it up. Lol
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I'm doing a 91 ranger with a 460 based engine. I've done 3 rangers with 5.0's. Time to step it up. Lol
That's real kool. The power alone would be addictive to say the least.

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I think this is a great idea. The chevy 350 is a time proven power house. It's a great engine, its parts are cheap, and it is easy to build up and rebuilt. I think this would be a good project for someone, i'm sure they sell adapters and what not for it to bolt to the other ford stuff. I
That's one of the main reasons i'm checking out these motors. They're cheap, easy to find and you can do damn near anything with them to boot.

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who cares what people say! i'd swap in a GM motor any day over a ford motor.

If i had an older ranger an ls1 swap would be the first thing i'd do.
Well that's your opinion and your preferance sure. I really don't have any problem with the big 3 in general, just certain areas. GM parts base is way too large for me to ignore and the price tag on those parts, 9 out of 10 times they'll be alot cheaper than the others. The 350 SBC has been around for decades, and is one of GM's most popular crate motors known to man. GM said it was either the gen. 1 350 SBC, Gen 1 and 2 LS1 and LS2, and now that they brought it out of retirement The 572 BBC. I've heard 2 versions of it and nasty doesn't do it justice.

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man alot o of bad talk about doing the swap but have you ever done one? I have been starting on mine and its not hard just time to not alot of fab work needed I'll have pics as I go so others can see how hard it is as a I build mine it's a 97 ranger 2wd to 4wd all chevy parts well be on mine
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if i was going to do a V8 swap,, i would go with the chrysler 318 engine

before we took the engine out of an old chrysler imperial

holy crap ( single barrel carb ) that accelerated like stink on 87 octane

plus you will want a front engine mounted distributor .

firewall mods are a serious pain-in-the-*** ,, especially if you have no prior experiance doing it.

oh! the former owner of that engine got 1,000 kilometers out of a tank of gas
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As the current owner of a 318 No I never thought Id own something that makes my 4.0 OHV explorer seem fast. LOL Dont get me wrong it is a great motor, but why do all the swap work for so little gain.

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chevy + ford = vomit

chrysler + ford = vomit and violent diarrhea

ford + ford = pure bliss

I dont really like mixed breeds, unless its a Jeep.
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Plus it's different. The 5.0/4.6/5.4 engine swaps have been done to death and it would be nice to have something different.
WOW you sir are an innovator putting a S hitrolet into something other then a S hitrolet. You just might be on to something there and I am sure that no one ever thought of doing this swap.
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Fixed it for you...Remember...

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Fixed it for you...Remember...

Ford makes it, Chevy shakes it.
That's an old version that was pretty kool.

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WOW you sir are an innovator putting a S hitrolet into something other then a S hitrolet. You just might be on to something there and I am sure that no one ever thought of doing this swap.
Thanks. I consider that a compliment. Not too many people think of things like I do. I look at all possibilities.

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Well that's your opinion. But you only see one angle like most. The main reason I'm looking at this engine is because they're simple to work on, have easy access to unknown amounts of parts and above all else they're cheap.

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As the current owner of a 318… No I never thought I’d own something that makes my 4.0 OHV explorer seem fast. LOL Don’t get me wrong it is a great motor, but why do all the swap work for so little gain.

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That's why people just do things without planning ahead. I like to plan way ahead and consider all options before getting started.

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man alot o of bad talk about doing the swap but have you ever done one? I have been starting on mine and its not hard just time to not alot of fab work needed I'll have pics as I go so others can see how hard it is as a I build mine it's a 97 ranger 2wd to 4wd all chevy parts well be on mine
I have done several S10 V8 conversions. In fact I just got through helping a guy do a 1993 4 banger conversion. He purchased a complete kit from summit racing and it was a near bolt in. We got it done in about 15 hours and he spent roughly around $2,000 bucks which included the engine. The only thing that we really had to wait on was the machine shop. and we had to weld in new motor mounts. This guy kept his 2WD though. yours will take alot longer due to the fact that you're converting yours to 4WD.

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572 BBC just for some motivation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36mjHErRz8Y

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well as of today mine is in there still fabing the motor mounts but not to hard to do ill get pic's up when done
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572 BBC just for some motivation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36mjHErRz8Y

That was from Good Guys. It sounds 10x better in person.

There's also a guy around here with a 72 or so C10 sporting a 572. His girlfriend bought him one for his birthday...$13,000 price tag for just the engine!
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NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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About 12 years ago I put a built-up 2.8L Capri V-6 motor in a '75 Chevy Luv P/U and on the tailgate below the CHEVROLET I put the letters "Power by FORD" (a blue oval sticker). It really pissed off my Chevy friends & got me a lot of taunting but it hauled butt. It was a perfect match in that truck of power-vs-mileage till one of my employees crashed & totalled it. To everyone their own. . .
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That was from Good Guys. It sounds 10x better in person.



There's also a guy around here with a 72 or so C10 sporting a 572. His girlfriend bought him one for his birthday...$13,000 price tag for just the engine!

www.nelsonracingengines.com they have a few videos that might interest you. That is also the cheapest big block you can get too. Ford wants damn near that price just for the block. The last crate engine I looked at for ford concerning the big blocks was about $18,000 bucks for the 460 F.E. Big block.


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Pal to each is own. You only see one angle it seems to me. How many 350 SBC's did GM make? How come the parts list for that motor is about 2 million miles long? how come the parts are truly affordable and don't hurt the working man's wallet or bank accounts? and also explain why they're super easy to find and super cheap engines and are simple to work on. I suggest that you look at the overall big picture and start visiting websites and searching on the net before you go off again because someone telling me what I should put in my truck annoys the hell out of me.

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About 12 years ago I put a built-up 2.8L Capri V-6 motor in a '75 Chevy Luv P/U and on the tailgate below the CHEVROLET I put the letters "Power by FORD" (a blue oval sticker). It really pissed off my Chevy friends & got me a lot of taunting but it hauled butt. It was a perfect match in that truck of power-vs-mileage till one of my employees crashed & totalled it. To everyone their own. . .
It seems the only ones whom are dead set against it are the pure Ford only people. It's sad that someone wrecked it. That's what happened to my S10 with a 350 SBC. I let a friend borrow it after driving it for about 2 weeks and he totaled it. I also spent time in jail because of it (30 days or 5 weekends due to the fact that I couldn't pay the fines). The Judge just happened to be a Chevy fan. the ex-friend of mine spent 2 years in jail over the same incedent (he rear ended a cop in my truck).

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well as of today mine is in there still fabing the motor mounts but not to hard to do ill get pic's up when done
Can't wait to see it. As of right now I'm playing the waiting game because that salvage yard I went to just wants to jerk me around. I'm waiting for my tax refund so I can begin. The local salvage yard I went to keeps lowering the price of the 5.0 and they cut me off in mid sentence now when I mention that 1983 Econoline van that has a 351 Windsor under the hood alond with a tranny. The 5.0 has indeed been done to death. I just want to have something a little different that aint been done too much.
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Nelson Racing Engines - "We Build Horsepower!" Twin Turbo LSX they have a few videos that might interest you. That is also the cheapest big block you can get too. Ford wants damn near that price just for the block. The last crate engine I looked at for ford concerning the big blocks was about $18,000 bucks for the 460 F.E. Big block.
It's ridiculous. Those that don't know much about mixed brands or engines will never understand how much cheaper you can build a Chevy than a Ford. To add to that, I will probably never own another Chevy product unless it's another S10 with a V8 in it. That was a fun truck!


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Pal to each is own. You only see one angle it seems to me. How many 350 SBC's did GM make? How come the parts list for that motor is about 2 million miles long? how come the parts are truly affordable and don't hurt the working man's wallet or bank accounts? and also explain why they're super easy to find and super cheap engines and are simple to work on. I suggest that you look at the overall big picture and start visiting websites and searching on the net before you go off again because someone telling me what I should put in my truck annoys the hell out of me.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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