Help please.... - Page 2 - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


8-Cylinder Tech If you are one of the few with a V8 engine in your Ranger, or if you dream of a Ranger with a V8 engine, this is the sub-forum for you.

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #26  
Old 08-16-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Icon10

Quote:
Originally Posted by XeRo View Post
well go early in the morning, when they open. If not tell the owner that you are interested in a 302 and leave your number.

Don't be stupid and waste thousands when you don't have to.
Yes I know and have already arranged that. I intend to be there when they arrive to open. I aint wasting all of that money on that stuff I checked out when I can put that money into something else for my truck. I'm fixing to go to the powerblock website to find out about that paint job that the trucks show did for about $70.00 bucks. It will cost me a little more because I aint doing the paint but it will be alot cheaper than normal that's for sure.
  #27  
Old 08-16-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmsoko View Post
There are other places to find 302s (and better places)...

Look for a 1999-2001 Explorer V8.

Check places like:
www.craigslist.com
www.ebay.com
www.car-parts.com

Don't bother messing around with a 302 from another vehicle. The explorer 302 was one of the best out of the box 302s produced. GT40 heads, intake, etc.. The explorer will also give you most of the parts you need. I constantly see complete explorer wrecks for ~$1000 or less.
Thanks man. That is what I wanted to know and needed. This aint my first engine swap, but it is my first Ranger V8 swap. I just hoping that it's similar to the S10's swaps that I've done before. From what I've learned so far it's not as easy as the S10's that is for sure.
  #28  
Old 08-16-2008
tmsoko's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Plymouth, MI
Posts: 247
Quote:
Originally Posted by knightmare1015 View Post
...From what I've learned so far it's not as easy as the S10's that is for sure.
I don't know. There is one guy who did his explorer to ranger swap in 10 hours start to finish. Pretty quick / easy swap.
  #29  
Old 08-16-2008
04blackedge's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 23,426
That was on a 03 Ranger with like a 01 Expo 5.0, the wiring is almost the same so its a breeze. Ford changed the wiring in 04 so its a totally different beast.

From what I've seen out of Knightmare is he's all talk. He throws around all these names like Edelbrock, Painless Performance, etc, etc but yet does nothing to his truck. I will be suprised if a motor swap ever happens on his truck.
  #30  
Old 08-16-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmsoko View Post
I don't know. There is one guy who did his explorer to ranger swap in 10 hours start to finish. Pretty quick / easy swap.
Really! That is kool. I didn't mean the actual swap. I meant getting the parts. So far I'm having a blast doing that. I did find some mud tires in the STOCK Size that came on the truck when I got it. Dunlop Radial Rover R/T $113.00 per tire from www.tirerack.com . That aint too bad for an Off Road tire at all. The ones I looked at from a local tire dealer wanted way too much. This cat wanted around $200.00 bucks a Tire plus I would have to get a lift kit to accomodate the tires. I laughed at him and said have a nice day. I don't nead a lift kit for the same size tire I already have on there. This guy was a total idiot, and to beat it all, the exact same tires. That dude was just trying to steal money from me is all that was.
  #31  
Old 08-16-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Quote:
Originally Posted by 04blackedge View Post
That was on a 03 Ranger with like a 01 Expo 5.0, the wiring is almost the same so its a breeze. Ford changed the wiring in 04 so its a totally different beast.

From what I've seen out of Knightmare is he's all talk. He throws around all these names like Edelbrock, Painless Performance, etc, etc but yet does nothing to his truck. I will be suprised if a motor swap ever happens on his truck.
Stay tuned. I haven't had time to do anything to my truck or anything to do it with. I will be doing a swap and going the super cheap way. Plus I use to wire 18 wheelers for a living at Utility Trailer Manufacturing Co. which I left about 2 weeks ago. I also got my profit sharing money and that is what I plan on using to do the swap. It will be sept. before I see that money. the paperwork was filed when I left and that is the time they said I would see it. I couldn't be happier to be out of that damn place. It's kinda hard to do anything without the time,tools, and money aint it.

Last edited by knightmare1015; 08-16-2008 at 03:25 PM.
  #32  
Old 08-16-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
I wonder what I have change to use the 4.6 liter? probably the whole front suspension knowing my luck. I could survive a plane crash but killed on the way to the hospital due to the ambulance wrecking. That is the type of luck that I have.
  #33  
Old 08-16-2008
04blackedge's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 23,426
You shouldn't have to change the front suspension considering it has nothing to do with the engine. Custom motor mounts, yes.
  #34  
Old 08-16-2008
tmsoko's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Plymouth, MI
Posts: 247
4.6L will be hard to fit with the torsion bar frame. Quite narrow up top. My Windsor is really tight - barely enough room to fit the headers.
  #35  
Old 08-19-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Quote:
Originally Posted by 04blackedge View Post
You shouldn't have to change the front suspension considering it has nothing to do with the engine. Custom motor mounts, yes.
Nope. not quite but you're close. The 4.6 liter will not fit my model due to the torsion bar front end. If I had coil overs that would be a different story. Plus the 4.6 liter is alot wider than the 302 because of the over head cam set up. That was documented by Gregr when he stuck a 4.6 liter in his ranger. To do the 4.6 swap I'd have 2 choices and neither are cheap. The first is change the entire front suspension which will cost way,way too much. The other option is cut and tub out the inner fender wells, and a custom oil pan. The 302 will fit in there like a glove. My friend who owns a custom rod shop just done an 04 Ranger Edge that had the exact same power plant and Drivetrain that I had only his was an ext. cab. It dropped right in and bolted right in place. He did have a hell of an issue with the wiring though.
  #36  
Old 08-19-2008
Fx4wannabe01's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (23)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boring, Oregon
Posts: 21,721
5.0 fitting like a glove has been covered plenty of times....01 and older expo and 98+ ranger are virtually the same doors forward.

4.6/5.4 in the torsion bar frame is actually quite narrow to get the engine low enough. torsion bars vs. coil-overs.....really don't matter. depends on that good ole frame width.
  #37  
Old 08-19-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
A reason...

The reason I brought up the 4.6 liter is I almost forgot about my deadline to do the swap with the 302. I've got until sept. 29 to do the swap. After that date i'll still be able to do the 302 swap but will have to use additional smog equip. That has been approved by the state and my county office reguarding emissions. The state's are easy to abide by but the county's are a different story. My county is already disputing 4 other countys concerning this matter. It's like retardville USA when you walk into my county office.
  #38  
Old 08-19-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fx4wannabe01 View Post
5.0 fitting like a glove has been covered plenty of times....01 and older expo and 98+ ranger are virtually the same doors forward.

4.6/5.4 in the torsion bar frame is actually quite narrow to get the engine low enough. torsion bars vs. coil-overs.....really don't matter. depends on that good ole frame width.
True. I did find a couple of blocks both the 302 and 4.6 and what I stated was true. But mine has a narrower frame than the coil overs for that year. it's about 2 to 3 inches narrower. The cat I mentioned earlier has the same frame but it's longer due to the ext. cab. My friend who I sought for advise took a few minutes out of his evil schedule and crawled underneath it and looked. he said that the 4.6 would fit with some cutting and it would be lower than the 302 but is wider than my frame would alow. He siad it would work but he didn't like the idea of cutting and notching out a good frame which he enjoyed looking at because that other dude damn near destroyed his. he ended up calling LMC classic trucks and ordering a new stock chassis replacement.
  #39  
Old 08-19-2008
Fx4wannabe01's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (23)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boring, Oregon
Posts: 21,721
Quote:
Originally Posted by knightmare1015 View Post
True. I did find a couple of blocks both the 302 and 4.6 and what I stated was true. But mine has a narrower frame than the coil overs for that year. it's about 2 to 3 inches narrower. The cat I mentioned earlier has the same frame but it's longer due to the ext. cab. My friend who I sought for advise took a few minutes out of his evil schedule and crawled underneath it and looked. he said that the 4.6 would fit with some cutting and it would be lower than the 302 but is wider than my frame would alow. He siad it would work but he didn't like the idea of cutting and notching out a good frame which he enjoyed looking at because that other dude damn near destroyed his. he ended up calling LMC classic trucks and ordering a new stock chassis replacement.

no ranger came with coil-overs. wait.....somebody chopped up your buddys ranger's frame, and he ordered up a new frame from LMC truck? wtf? ummm...no. your post makes no sence what-so-ever.
  #40  
Old 08-19-2008
GregR's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wanamingo, MN
Posts: 89
knightmare,
You have no idea what you are talking about. Go over to RPS and search for a member named "my4.698". He put a 4.6 sohc into a '98 4x4 and didn't have to cut anything. The engine sat up higher than my dohc only because he had to clear the front diff. The dohc in a torsion bar Ranger runs into problems at the exhaust ports. The headers would run right into the frame. The coil spring Rangers are wide enough to allow the headers to pass inside the frame rails. The size of the block is not an issue.

My guess is that you will never do a V8 swap.
  #41  
Old 08-19-2008
04blackedge's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 23,426
Quote:
Originally Posted by GregR View Post
knightmare,
You have no idea what you are talking about. Go over to RPS and search for a member named "my4.698". He put a 4.6 sohc into a '98 4x4 and didn't have to cut anything. The engine sat up higher than my dohc only because he had to clear the front diff. The dohc in a torsion bar Ranger runs into problems at the exhaust ports. The headers would run right into the frame. The coil spring Rangers are wide enough to allow the headers to pass inside the frame rails. The size of the block is not an issue.

My guess is that you will never do a V8 swap.
Someone finally agrees with me! I've said like 5 times that a 5.0 will bolt in perfectly to a 04, just the wiring is going to be a pain.
  #42  
Old 08-19-2008
GregR's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wanamingo, MN
Posts: 89
Quote:
Originally Posted by knightmare1015 View Post
The reason I brought up the 4.6 liter is I almost forgot about my deadline to do the swap with the 302. I've got until sept. 29 to do the swap. After that date i'll still be able to do the 302 swap but will have to use additional smog equip. That has been approved by the state and my county office reguarding emissions. The state's are easy to abide by but the county's are a different story. My county is already disputing 4 other countys concerning this matter. It's like retardville USA when you walk into my county office.
It's the perfect excuse, "I couldn't do a V8 swap because my state/county F'd me over". If you only have until Sept. 29th to do the swap then don't even bother, you'll never have it done by then anyways.
  #43  
Old 08-19-2008
Fx4wannabe01's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (23)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boring, Oregon
Posts: 21,721
Yea...was gonna say...if you've got a date set for a deadline to legally do this swap or whatever....you better get a fukin' move on then. You said you won't see that bonus money until sep. you have end of sep to get the swap done. yea....itwon't get done.

Great post GregR.
  #44  
Old 08-20-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fx4wannabe01 View Post
no ranger came with coil-overs. wait.....somebody chopped up your buddys ranger's frame, and he ordered up a new frame from LMC truck? wtf? ummm...no. your post makes no sence what-so-ever.
Nope. he pulled the body off the frame and the owner had tried to modify it and pretty much destroyed it. My friend didn't want to tell me how much it costs but I could just about tell It was way more than the truck is worth. That's what my friend discovered when he pulled the body off.
  #45  
Old 08-20-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Quote:
Originally Posted by 04blackedge View Post
Someone finally agrees with me! I've said like 5 times that a 5.0 will bolt in perfectly to a 04, just the wiring is going to be a pain.
I never said it would be easy. It was someone else.
  #46  
Old 08-20-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Icon13

Quote:
Originally Posted by GregR View Post
knightmare,
You have no idea what you are talking about. Go over to RPS and search for a member named "my4.698". He put a 4.6 sohc into a '98 4x4 and didn't have to cut anything. The engine sat up higher than my dohc only because he had to clear the front diff. The dohc in a torsion bar Ranger runs into problems at the exhaust ports. The headers would run right into the frame. The coil spring Rangers are wide enough to allow the headers to pass inside the frame rails. The size of the block is not an issue.

My guess is that you will never do a V8 swap.
Well so much for any positive feedback from you guys. The 302 will be going in soon and there's 2 things you can do about: Nothing and like it.
  #47  
Old 08-20-2008
04blackedge's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 23,426
What do we have to go off of? You've been nothing but talk for the past couple of months. More power to you to do this swap, make sure to post up some pics.
  #48  
Old 08-20-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Saying goodbye to ranger forums...

Well after all of this negative attitude towards me, my Ideas, and all the disrespect from other members I have decided to leave ranger forums. I also wanted a couple of members to know they've been reported for harrassment. Have a nice life guys. I aint going to be back either.
  #49  
Old 08-20-2008
04blackedge's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 23,426
Ok whatever, you've said this before and have come back.
  #50  
Old 08-21-2008
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: unknown
Posts: 890
Quote:
Originally Posted by 04blackedge View Post
Ok whatever, you've said this before and have come back.
whatever. You guys won't be seeing any threads like this at all. You will see me in the project logs. After I'm done with my truck then i'll be gone unless I have another project truck.
Closed Thread

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.... annguyen1981 General Ford Ranger Discussion 13 12-05-2013 03:35 PM
please tell me where my PCV is, Please (did search) uplandhunter General Technical & Electrical 16 02-07-2011 09:34 AM
E-Brake help. Please help me out. Need to get done asap. rybread5520 General Technical & Electrical 2 01-02-2009 10:41 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:43 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.